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Old 01-29-2021, 09:31 AM
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ECD, its a real mind bender that theorem. Took me a while to get it but worth the effort.
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Old 01-29-2021, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by germanaviator View Post
This is the quote from the article from which I took that pre-symptomitc is a bigger problem than asymptomatic:

"Viral culture studies suggest that people with SARS-CoV-2 can become infectious one to two days before the onset of symptoms and continue to be infectious up to seven days thereafter; viable virus is relatively short lived.7Symptomatic and presymptomatic transmission have a greater role in the spread of SARS-CoV-2 than truly asymptomatic transmission"
greater role is not the same thing as great role though. Yes, they have more of a role than the thing that has almost no role.
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greater role is not the same thing as great role though. Yes, they have more of a role than the thing that has almost no role.
What you call "almost no role", they call 17-20% of all transmissions. And I never said a "great" role. I said significant.
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Old 01-30-2021, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by germanaviator View Post
What you call "almost no role", they call 17-20% of all transmissions. And I never said a "great" role. I said significant.
Yes, 17-20% (which is an estimate they authors freely admit the have no reliable tools or data on which to base that number) of what is likely a very small number of actual people walking around that may be infectious anyway? Do you think the people more likely to play a role in actual spread are the ones with no symptoms, or the ones hacking and coughing? I think most the spread probably comes from the most infectious?
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Old 02-01-2021, 06:58 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/29/covi...c-flights.html

“In the short term, a domestic testing requirement could further dampen travel demand and create confusion at a time when case counts are diminishing,” wrote Raymond James airline analyst Savi Syth in a note Thursday. “We expect testing supply to be an impediment to such an order in the short term and believe a test enforcement is more likely by summer when vaccine distribution is more widespread and testing capacities are greater.”

For anyone still thinking that we will have a comeback of travel in time for the Summer travel season. The government has other plans.
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Old 02-01-2021, 09:46 AM
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ECD, its a real mind bender that theorem. Took me a while to get it but worth the effort.
I wish a few of our politicians had made the effort...
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:43 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/u...vel/index.html

”Guided by science” Not at all by greed, power, or corruption...

Thank you for all the supporters of this. You destroyed your own careers.
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If you actually apply some "Syance" to this issue, the science and statistics say it's a dumb idea because there will be far too many false positives in a large group of almost entirely negative travelers. Excargodog can explain in detail.

Mayor Pete said they were going to analyze the science and also ask the people who would have to implement it (airlines and airports). If they actually do that, they'll realize it's a bad idea.

I'm not entirely ruling out the possibility that they're doing this with the ulterior motive of killing airline aviation for political (control) or climate (carbon) purposes.

With vaccination putting a dent on covid and herd immunity almost inevitable (in the US) this year, there's no justification for trying to implement something like this a few months before it would be pointless anyway.

We'll know soon enough. I hope (assume) the industry groups and unions are all over this. And it's not just airline people, the entire travel industry is in jeopardy, and it's very large, and very unionized. For that reason alone I can't see Biden actually doing this. He may be letting his boy Pete talk some smack, but hopefully that's as far as it goes.

I already called my rep just in case, for anyone who doesn't fly for Amazon Prime you might want to do the same.
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If you actually apply some "Syance" to this issue, the science and statistics say it's a dumb idea because there will be far too many false positives in a large group of almost entirely negative travelers. Excargodog can explain in detail.

Mayor Pete said they were going to analyze the science and also ask the people who would have to implement it (airlines and airports). If they actually do that, they'll realize it's a bad idea.

I'm not entirely ruling out the possibility that they're doing this with the ulterior motive of killing airline aviation for political (control) or climate (carbon) purposes.

With vaccination putting a dent on covid and herd immunity almost inevitable (in the US) this year, there's no justification for trying to implement something like this a few months before it would be pointless anyway.

We'll know soon enough. I hope (assume) the industry groups and unions are all over this. And it's not just airline people, the entire travel industry is in jeopardy, and it's very large, and very unionized. For that reason alone I can't see Biden actually doing this. He may be letting his boy Pete talk some smack, but hopefully that's as far as it goes.

I already called my rep just in case, for anyone who doesn't fly for Amazon Prime you might want to do the same.
Pete is pretty good about following data, even when not politically expedient, I’d be surprised if this got past the “we’re researching it as an option” phase.
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Just come into the country illegally and you don’t have to worry about the test. Science!
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