Xtreme87

The Davos gang don’t want you to travel anymore. They will see to it that their puppets enact their agenda on the world.

Anymore questions?

Regularguy

I’m not a conspiracy advocate, but reigning in air travel will be the single biggest easy effect on carbon emissions. This has been known for years.

https://theicct.org/sites/default/fi...8_20190918.pdf

“ That is 2.4% of global CO2 emissions from fossil fuel use and a 32% increase over the past five years. Further, this emissions growth rate is 70% higher than assumed under cur- rent ICAO projections.”

“ If the global aviation sector were treated as a nation, it would have been the sixth-largest source of carbon di- oxide (CO2) emissions from energy consumption in 2015, emitting more than Germany (Air Transport Action Group [ATAG], 2019; Olivier, Janssens- Maenhout, Muntean, & Peters, 2016). The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), the United Nations organization with author- ity over global aviation, expects CO2 emissions from international aviation to approximately triple by 2050 if cur- rent trends hold (ICAO, 2019a).

COVID lockdowns are saving the world and we’re not talking viral infections.

Turbosina

The 'Davos class' needs their capital to be productive. Shutting down the global economy is not in their interests.

And sure, there are plenty of nutjobs just salivating at the idea of enacting 'climate justice' through regulation (because it generally won't happen through legislation.). But as with any political matter, the looniest voices attract the most attention, whether that's the AOC/ Greta crowd, or the Q Shaman crowd.

In the end, more sober policymakers (usually) enact more rational policies. It is rare that the lunatic fringe actually has its way, and that goes for both sides of the aisle.

And in the end, the markets will speak louder than the social-media channels of the hysterical members of both sides. Greta can shame as many airline passengers as she wants, but what will truly move the needle are decisions by major corporations that there's more money in green tech than in old tech. Look at GM's recent announcement that they're phasing out internal-combustion engines. Look at Tesla's popularity. Now that's the kind of change I can get behind: change that is driven by offering people something better (electric cars), rather than by simply banning what you don't like.

Whoever designed that poster, though, should be sent to live with one of those isolated tribes in Papua New Guinea for a while. You say you want to go home? Sorry, there are no more flights out of here...but Oz is a few hundred miles' swim thataway!

Excargodog

In fact, they do not. Once you have accumulated more capital than you can possibly spend - especially if you are childless - simply shutting down avenues for others to overtake you is adequate for keeping your status as one of the wealthy.

galaxy flyer

I’m guessing you aren’t a traveler or a pilot and have bought into the world is ending science because they have a lot of degrees and fancy charts. “Science” can’t get a weather forecast right 96 hours in advance and you believe we can predict the climate over the next 3 decades for the planet, an infinitely more complex problem. Yes, we’re creating more CO2, not doubting, just saying predictions are difficult, especially about the future. Got it.

Regularguy

You need to be more careful about what you “guess” and assume about people. I was simply pointing out what is going on around you. Ignorance is often living happily thinking nothing will change, well there are people who want to change how everyone lives, good or bad. I think COVID has proven these people will take advantage of any opportunity.

furloughfuntime

This a common false parallel that ignorant climate deniers like to point to. There is a distinction between "weather" and "climate" as a concept that makes your entire point moot. You're right in that weather is exceedingly hard to predict, but the climate is much easier to model and is an entirely different can of worms.

A good parallel would be the stock market. On any given day, no one can know which stock will provide the best returns for that day. But if you look at the stock market over the course of the year or even decades, you can draw conclusions that after X years on the market you will have approximately Y% returns. It's a lot harder to predict whether ABC stock is going to double today than it is to say that the market will average 7% returns for a given year based on historical performance.

So yes, predictions are difficult, but the kind of modeling and statistical analysis of the decades and centuries of weather data shows that there is a definite correlation between human behavior with respect to carbon-based fuels and increasing global temperatures. Comparing your local weatherman's often futile efforts to tell you whether it will be sunny this weekend to the thousands of scientists who are dealing with huge data sets that span centuries is really not an intelligent comparison. There is nearly universal consensus that human caused climate change is a real phenomenon, and what's your response?

"Hurr durr, they have dem fancy charts and dem fancy diplomas, so we can't trust em cuz I'm too stupid to understand it myself!"


TLDR; Climate and weather are two separate things when it comes to predictability, so conflating the two is either because you're a fool or a partisan shill. It's also very sad that people choose to revel in their ignorance when expressing suspicion of "fancy charts" and "lots of degrees." As if the 15 minutes you spend reading sketchy news articles on facebook makes you as qualified as the scholars who spend years studying these issues in all their complexity.

Do you really think education is a bad thing? That's what it sounds like you're saying. I remember a time when people used to view individuals who worked hard and studied to become experts in a field with respect, but now people are too emotional and rely on their feelings over objective reality, expert analysis, and even-headed decision making.

Truly sad that you share the same mindset as flat-earthers and chem trail conspiracists who reject objective evidence and the expert opinions in favor of their own delusions.

Xtreme87

Bingo. Simply put, they do not need us anymore. Now off to digital gulag for you.

ugleeual

Plenty of solar panel installation jobs available... just ask the Keystone XL workers let go last week.

Excargodog

Solyndra might be tooling up again - with a sufficiently large grant.