Regularguy

Just thought I’d let you know, I have painted multiple cars as a hobby and wore a tightly fitted carbon filtered mask, eye protection and clothing because the product was very aromatic and absorbed through the eyes and skin as well as the lungs. Additionally I have used dust masks while sanding drywall and other home projects. Even with a tight fit they allow a bit of dust by them.

Wearing both of those mask types properly is miserable, but the immediate and long term effects of breathing in, not out, the particulates is worth it for the short time.

Doctors these days wear full face shields because they discovered just masks would rub against their face and drop more cells into the open wounds. Check it out for yourself.

https://www.theapprenticedoctor.com/...surgeons-wear/

These examples also prove the majority of people never wore their COVID masks properly.

Back to the CDC data. Masks for the normal person do little to protect them from coming in contact with the virus. They act as a barrier to reduce the distance a person’s possibly virus infected vapor travels.

And yes Fauci, Biden, Harris, and others have made it into theater.

Regularguy

Duffy did you actually read the report or just just to the conclusion? Probably the latter and this is why not reading the fine print has caused so many to be misled and misinformed.

“The findings in this report are subject to at least four limitations. First, whereas the health department monitored all exposed clients for signs and symptoms of COVID-19, and no clients developed symptoms, only a subset was tested; thus, asymptomatic clients could have been missed. Similarly, with a viral incubation period of 2–14 days, any COVID-19 PCR tests obtained from clients too early in their course of infection could return false-negative results. To help mitigate this possibility, all exposed clients were offered testing on day 5 and were contacted daily to monitor for symptoms until day 14. Second, although the health department obtained supplementary data, no information was collected regarding underlying medical conditions or use of other personal protective measures, such as gloves and hand hygiene, which could have influenced risk for infection. Third, viral shedding is at its highest during the 2 to 3 days before symptom onset; any clients who interacted with the stylists before they became symptomatic were not recruited for contact tracing. Finally, the mode of interaction between stylist and client might have limited the potential for exposure to the virus. Services at salon A were limited to haircuts, facial hair trimmings, and perms. Most stylists cut hair while clients are facing away from them, which might have also limited transmission.”

And yet they give credit to masks? And this is science? Not really.

Rabid Seagull

I have no problem understanding what you gave as data, most of which continues to be a NSS moment, but where I do have a problem is your summary of "little, if any, protections". Your "if any" is implying a possibility of 0%. Where are you getting that from? In all your copy-links, there's no mention of that. Is a clean mask better? I don't need a link to that because NSS. Your conclusions have not been the "summaries" of the links you posted.

Knobcrk1

Ok then I guess I’ll ask you why is it that you and your buddies are the only ones that know more than what the entire world seems to be missing about mask usage? Why are major countries all around the globe, filled with doctors and scientists that are smarter than you and me, are advocating masks to help against community spread? But but look at this article I found that agrees with me on the internet!!!

Regularguy

Ok knob

Why is it all of their articles and data show the same thing I have written and yet they have convinced the world leaders to mandate mask wearing?

World leaders, Presidents, Governors, Mayors and down make the mandates, not the CDC and medical “experts.” They are just tying to find a general way to reduce the spread of this virus.

The real question should be this, why have all these leader chosen such draconian measures and penalties instead of following the actual science and data? Could it be their conscious or maybe subconscious motivations are not the control of COVID or another agenda?

In the USA you all have argued over and over again about the differences between states who are more draconian and dictatorial than the others. In the end it always comes out the results have little difference between them. The only major difference I personal observe is the control of the Governors and Mayors. It’s really that simple and it’s the same across the globe and I wonder why you are blinded to that?

No I have nothing special over the medical experts, I just read their reports and ignore the media. What I am writing is it’s how the leaders USE the reports and ignore the details which is the issue. And how people allow themselves to be used, both voluntary and involuntarily.

Humans love control and that’s what this has become all about. Yes it’s a bad virus, but the opportunity for control is huge!

So let me ask you, and others like you, this; Why is it that I can concede masks reduce the vapor distance and therefore the distance an infected person can come to others, and yet you can’t concede or even acknowledge the COVID is being used to fuel the power and control of so many leaders across the USA and globe? Remember Biden was not elected on his platform. He was elected because of how he said he would stop the COVID spread. And yet his first 100 days is really about his political agenda.

Furloughedboi

Knob, I’m gonna drop this one on you.

The USA is supposedly a leading country, yet our “top” scientists and even our President and VP are making a complete show of the mask and safety theater. Double-masking in a room of fully vaxxed people. 10’+ distance between themselves and others. Double masked when outdoors.

So, to counter your question, “is every other country making it up?” ... why not? If the USA is doing it, what’s to say other people aren’t? They’re doing it for the very same reason the USA is:
- to show the severity of covid
- to show they’re “doing something”
- to show it’s not over yet

I could go on. The fact is, Fauci is our “leading” expert, and he still wears a mask around fully vaccinated people. It’s the most idiotic thing I’ve ever seen

Qotsaautopilot

Who am I protecting with my mask at this point? Efficacy of masks is moot at this point. They aren’t needed.

Flyfalcons

It's all virtue signaling theater.

BlueMoon

I wonder if there is a middle ground.

anti maskers were stupid


perma-maskers are stupid


Its time to start lifting restrictions. If private businesses wish to require them fine. I’ll wear it if they require it and I want to utilize there business. I’m not going to pitch a fit since I’m an adult. It’s not an infringement on my freedom.

Nantonaku

I guess you haven't been paying attention to the culture wars taking place the last decade. One side in particular (and not the side you think) does not agree with you. As a perfect example, one side decided to take a bakery to court because they did not want to make a cake for a wedding. And now here we are today.