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Old 01-10-2022, 03:53 PM
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It is completely legal under HIPAA for an employer to require employees to disclose their vaccination status, and that was true well before the OSHA mandate.
Never had an employer, outside my rich uncle Sam, ask for my vaccine history - EVER.

What's your point?

Next its going to be when was the last pap smear or colonoscopy?

I mean that is were this is going unless the SCOTUS thrashes the OSHA overreach - which now having watched the video of the proceedings seems to be an almost certainty

So, then, what about all those millions of employees fired? Seems to be a lot of lawsuits going to happen dontcha think? If you overreacted as a company for the VS, you are probably going to be hammered pretty soon (I'm talking to you UAL).

As I have said from the beginning of this travesty of human endeavor, don't comply. Wait. It will be to your best interests. Perhaps I might have been correct. We'll see soon enough.
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Old 01-10-2022, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post
Part 1 of the ETS was effective today forcing covered employees to reveal their vax status and if not vaxxed, to wear masks in all workplace settings. The deadline to actually have all employees vaxxed or start paying fines is February 9.
aha, thanks.
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Old 01-10-2022, 04:03 PM
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Sure wish they would drop their 6-3 ruling on canning this mandate.
Hurry up SCOTUS!!
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Old 01-10-2022, 04:06 PM
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Never had an employer, outside my rich uncle Sam, ask for my vaccine history - EVER.

What's your point?
My point is exactly what I wrote - even if SCOTUS rules the OSHA mandate unconstitutional, it would still be completely legal for an employer to require employees to disclose their vaccination status.
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Old 01-10-2022, 04:16 PM
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My point is exactly what I wrote - even if SCOTUS rules the OSHA mandate unconstitutional, it would still be completely legal for an employer to require employees to disclose their vaccination status.

SO what was your point then?

If you don't have the coof jab then you can't be hired?

For those seeking employment, you will have to jump thru whatever hoops the employer lays out for you.

However, for those already employ, that constitutes an illegal job action (assuming you are under a union) and a violation of HIPPA. I know what has been posted on here before, but one of the tenants of the OSHA case was just that (Justice Thomas thrashed that in his line of questioning).

My employer, right now, can not ask for my vaccine status. Just like they can not ask about my last colonoscopy or other such medical procedure. They have asked me about my jab status and I have told them it is none of their business. Guess, what, I am still working here.

Furthermore, this will be affirmed in the thrashing of the OSHA mandate by SCOTUS (did you even watch the proceedings? Justice Thomas clearly blasted that contention).

If the OSHA mandate stayed in play, those under present employ would be subject to whatever whims HR/kompany demanded. That's the rub with most of us here. As far as looking for a job, well, yes, again, see jumping thru hoops comment.
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Sure wish they would drop their 6-3 ruling on canning this mandate.
Hurry up SCOTUS!!
Ouch that hurt

I deserved that one
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Ouch that hurt

I deserved that one
I didn’t buy your post about a 5-4 upholding it
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Old 01-10-2022, 05:06 PM
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My employer, right now, can not ask for my vaccine status.
Yes, they can.

They had the legal right to do that before the OSHA mandate required it, and will still have the legal right to do it if SCOTUS finds the OSHA mandate unconstitutional.

If they’ve chosen to not require you to do so is different than them having legal right to require you to do so.

https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-profes...ace/index.html

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
Yes, they can.

They had the legal right to do that before the OSHA mandate required it, and will still have the legal right to do it if SCOTUS finds the OSHA mandate unconstitutional.

If they’ve chosen to not require you to do so is different than them having legal right to require you to do so.

https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-profes...ace/index.html

Yada yada yada
Yes, they can ASK

That's it.

They can not DEMAND. Only time they can is when you are in the application process. We are NOT talking about that and I was very clear in my previous post we were NOT talking about that.

That is why I told my employer to pound sand when they asked me. I am still employed. No phone calls, no hate emails either.

You people are idiots.

Go learn the law. Justice Thomas knows what he's talking about. That's why the attorneys representing the biden regime were left drooling after he lambasted them in his piercing line of questioning

Hey, you voluntarily gave up info, good on ya. Me, no. I know the law.


Maybe you should spend less time on fakebook, twitter, insta and the rest and more time engaging your brain on the salient subject matter.
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And what if there are not tests available??? What is one to do if one cannot produce a negative test weekly? What is the contingency program for you folks out there working under exemption. Thanks.
That’s already the case. You can’t get a test to save your life right now. Same thing with trying to get an antibody test. Funny how this wasn’t a problem 12 months ago.
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