21 FEB AE awards
#81
Training/Vacation question. I've had my bid in place for over a year and was given an award this AE. However, I wasn't thinking about changing my preference to for maintaining my vacation. Looking at where I sit in the award, I have a feeling my vacation will delay my training start date. Is it to late to let them know I'd be willing to move my vacation rather than have it delay training?
#82
#83
Used to not be able to keep it at all once you converted. It had to be rebid. Now you can keep it but if it conflicts with your training they can "cancel" it. Then you have to rebid it or just take the pay in April. Changed in 2012 contract, I think.
#86
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 71
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From: Mad Dog
I have training for a new position in mid April. I currently am a line holder.
In the month of March, during the bidding period, will I be eligible to bid for a schedule since I will only be available to fly for the first two weeks of the month?
Also, for the month of April, do I get paid ALV for my current category or for the new one? If not, what do I get paid?
Thanks guys.
In the month of March, during the bidding period, will I be eligible to bid for a schedule since I will only be available to fly for the first two weeks of the month?
Also, for the month of April, do I get paid ALV for my current category or for the new one? If not, what do I get paid?
Thanks guys.
#87
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2011
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I have training for a new position in mid April. I currently am a line holder.
In the month of March, during the bidding period, will I be eligible to bid for a schedule since I will only be available to fly for the first two weeks of the month?
Also, for the month of April, do I get paid ALV for my current category or for the new one? If not, what do I get paid?
Thanks guys.
In the month of March, during the bidding period, will I be eligible to bid for a schedule since I will only be available to fly for the first two weeks of the month?
Also, for the month of April, do I get paid ALV for my current category or for the new one? If not, what do I get paid?
Thanks guys.
If you convert in April, which is not likely if you are starting training mid April, you would bid at your new seat and not fly until you start training. All training events would be at your new payrate.
#88
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 71
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From: Mad Dog
It depends on when you convert. If you go to training mid April, my guess is you will bid your current seat for April. Your training will reduce the LCW for you, and any flying you do before you go to training will be at your current payrate.
If you convert in April, which is not likely if you are starting training mid April, you would bid at your new seat and not fly until you start training. All training events would be at your new payrate.
If you convert in April, which is not likely if you are starting training mid April, you would bid at your new seat and not fly until you start training. All training events would be at your new payrate.
Thank you for clarifying the rest.
Now if I don't fly at all the first two weeks because I convert to the new seat in April, how much credit do I get for that month?
Thx again for the help.
#89
Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Jun 2015
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Thx Buckley. I convert April 1. I beat the cutoff by a couple of days. The cutoff is on the 16 of every month.
Thank you for clarifying the rest.
Now if I don't fly at all the first two weeks because I convert to the new seat in April, how much credit do I get for that month?
Thx again for the help.
Thank you for clarifying the rest.
Now if I don't fly at all the first two weeks because I convert to the new seat in April, how much credit do I get for that month?
Thx again for the help.
After the training portion of your schedule is complete, you will "shadow bid" over your OE footprint as well as for trips you are eligible to fly in the month as a qualified pilot in the category after your OE footprint.
Tip - find your OE footprint and bid as much credit as early in the footprint as you can. Those trips will drop for OE and you will be paid the higher of your award or your assigned OE.
#90
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 71
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From: Mad Dog
You will get a prorated portion of the ALV for April in your new category for each day your schedule shows training. That will be pre-posted as credit for PBS purposes but check their math closely on the PBS pre-award because it is manually done and is not infrequently done so in error.
After the training portion of your schedule is complete, you will "shadow bid" over your OE footprint as well as for trips you are eligible to fly in the month as a qualified pilot in the category after your OE footprint.
Tip - find your OE footprint and bid as much credit as early in the footprint as you can. Those trips will drop for OE and you will be paid the higher of your award or your assigned OE.
After the training portion of your schedule is complete, you will "shadow bid" over your OE footprint as well as for trips you are eligible to fly in the month as a qualified pilot in the category after your OE footprint.
Tip - find your OE footprint and bid as much credit as early in the footprint as you can. Those trips will drop for OE and you will be paid the higher of your award or your assigned OE.
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