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Old 05-09-2017 | 12:27 PM
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When I'm happy where I'm at, I bid my current position at a seniority level that is comfortable. For example when I was ATL 7ERB at 65%, I wished to remain in that category as low as 75%. I would bid ATL 7ERB 75%. My next lines were the escape hatch if I got dog piled by senior bidders, such as NYC 7ERB 50%, DTW 7ERB 65%, etc. As long as I remained 75% or better I would remain in my current category, but there was a backup if I fell below my threshold for that category. Movement to other categories is subject to vacancies, so if you employ a strategy with a backup plan for deteriorating seniority have a few options.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Still there is good chance ATL88A becomes the fastest way to the Left Seat. Years ago that was inconceivable. Brave New World.
You mean Brave New Captains.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
Wont the 150 slots in ATL be filled mainly by guys being displaced from NYC and CVG? In reality, there may not be many open slots once the displacements occur.
The 88 pilots in CVG want to be in CVG. The FO M88 plug in CVG would be a line holding captain in ATL. I bet very few M88 pilots leave CVG for ATL M88. CVG 73N will be popular or a MD into a category that isn't available via AE is another option.

NYC pilots enjoy the seniority afforded by being in NYC. The pains of commuting and the hassle of covering three airports isn't for the weak of heart. Look for them to go where seniority is best. ATL M88A will take many of them, but the GS options for those within a few hours of NYC will make the 320 and 717 viable options. ATL may have the junior captian by the time the dust settles on this one.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
The 88 pilots in CVG want to be in CVG. The FO M88 plug in CVG would be a line holding captain in ATL. I bet very few M88 pilots leave CVG for ATL M88. CVG 73N will be popular or a MD into a category that isn't available via AE is another option.

NYC pilots enjoy the seniority afforded by being in NYC. The pains of commuting and the hassle of covering three airports isn't for the weak of heart. Look for them to go where seniority is best. ATL M88A will take many of them, but the GS options for those within a few hours of NYC will make the 320 and 717 viable options. ATL may have the junior captian by the time the dust settles on this one.
I think this is close... i bet we see a few head to dtw from cvg as well due to the proximity.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
The 88 pilots in CVG want to be in CVG. The FO M88 plug in CVG would be a line holding captain in ATL. I bet very few M88 pilots leave CVG for ATL M88. CVG 73N will be popular or a MD into a category that isn't available via AE is another option.

NYC pilots enjoy the seniority afforded by being in NYC. The pains of commuting and the hassle of covering three airports isn't for the weak of heart. Look for them to go where seniority is best. ATL M88A will take many of them, but the GS options for those within a few hours of NYC will make the 320 and 717 viable options. ATL may have the junior captian by the time the dust settles on this one.
There is so much upward movement in this bid I think all the angst about displacements will not turn out to be a issue.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
Wont the 150 slots in ATL be filled mainly by guys being displaced from NYC and CVG? In reality, there may not be many open slots once the displacements occur.

If it was a pure displacement bid yes, but this AE accounts for 600+ retirements. Lots of upward movement available.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There is so much upward movement in this bid I think all the angst about displacements will not turn out to be a issue.
i also agree that there will be minimal secondary displacements.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There is so much upward movement in this bid I think all the angst about displacements will not turn out to be a issue.
I also think this will be a very positive bid, unfortunately that does not fit with the politically desired narrative of some.

Thus the negative chatter. We can all speculate but in 2 weeks we will know for certain.

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Old 05-09-2017 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Ok I'll split the difference for a bet. 2011 at the most junior when it's said and done but only on the M88. The 320, 73N and 7ER will not be touched under 10 years.
Finally the 2011 hires get noticed. Even the seniority list tries to pretend they don't exist. What's up with that? 🤡
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Old 05-09-2017 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fozz179fs
What are predictions for MSP base in general? Not a lotta love from senior FOs in MSP for the 73N, which is good because it's a horrible airplane. Have a feeling a lot of folks sitting back until now. Anyone have thoughts on MSP??
I'm curious also. And confused. The explanation text in the bid talks about the increase in the MSP 73 category and then seems to say the 320 will be drawn down but the projection for May 2018 shows no change in the 320 A and B numbers. What's the deal with that?
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