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Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 2359460)
Plot twist, will some of the junior guys from the last bid, get pushed off widebody FO to 717A...
I hear it first hand from the guys I fly with and I have yet to fly with someone who came off a wide body. The guys who just upgraded from international flying complain for at least half of the trip and can't stop comparing the flying to their previous life. I think we'll see more junior upgrades IMHO. |
Originally Posted by IronOne
(Post 2359498)
I doubt it. I have been flying as a FO on the 88 with most Captains coming from the 75/76. It is a very different lifestyle. Fast pace. Busy. Multiple legs. Most of the wide body pilots don't want that 717/M88 life.
I hear it first hand from the guys I fly with and I have yet to fly with someone who came off a wide body. The guys who just upgraded from international flying complain for at least half of the trip and can't stop comparing the flying to their previous life. I think we'll see more junior upgrades IMHO. |
Originally Posted by sidestep
(Post 2359461)
150 new 88A's in ATL? My guess is it goes as junior as '16 hires. Curious to see how junior the 777 & 7ER goes in LAX. Last bid had A's in the ~7400 range.
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My prediction is MSP will still be a 10+ year upgrade and 15+ for a workable schedule.
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Originally Posted by Tee1Up
(Post 2359457)
Do you think there will be a lot of JR A's on this bid? I was more wondering how many junior widebody B's were going to get shoved out of their seats. I guess it's all perspective from where you're sitting. Getting the popcorn ready...
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Originally Posted by Xray678
(Post 2359443)
Just a quick note for any new guys, the iCrew function that shows how many people senior to you that have a bid in for an aircraft does not include people who have a displacement bid for that seat. Normally doesn't matter, but on this bid there will be a lot of displacements.
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If this bid doesn't work out for anybody....there will be another one next year I suppose.:D
As for those who sit senior FO....as a new hire SO I flew with FOs who could have been captains..with good seniority in the base. Being a newbie and not understanding the thought process, I asked a captain about why these FOs were doing what they were doing? His answer didn't make a lot of sense at the time, but 30 years on I get it completely....he told me, 'if you stay in the copilot seat long enough, it wont matter to you what else you can hold, mentally that's what you will permanently become, an FO.....and that's where you will retire.' Over the last few years I have flown with a lot of senior FOs, and what that Captain told me as a new hire.....now makes a lot of sense. |
Besides current m88 FO's, who would bother bidding m88A in ATL? If they're junior, it could be a year for conversion plus the full training footprint. All that just to get displaced off of a closing fleet in 2020!?
I assume the slots are for the displaced captains and they will not award anyone junior to 2016 hire date because it would be pointless. Different strokes for different folks I guess. |
Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman
(Post 2359526)
Besides current m88 FO's, who would bother bidding m88A in ATL? If they're junior, it could be a year for conversion plus the full training footprint. All that just to get displaced off of a closing fleet in 2020!?
I assume the slots are for the displaced captains and they will not award anyone junior to 2016 hire date because it would be pointless. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I deliberately bid to a category that had a sunset date, because I did not like the options available at the time via AE opportunities. When the sunset occurred...I parlayed the expected MD to bump into a WB-A position I would have likely never achieved via an AE. Everybody should be applying some strategic career thought process to what coming. |
It's out.
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