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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2358890)

The category you are converted into.

So if no flying then how do they compute an ALV? I think that was the question.

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Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2359003)

So if no flying then how do they compute an ALV? I think that was the question.

You will be converted untrained into your new category. The ALV will be for that category. Really does not matter because they will just leave the 747 category open until everyone is in school.

If you think Delta IT has had meltdowns recently, wait until there 286 tries to process this bid.

The disclaimers are already out from crew resources. We may not fill all positions, we may not back fill positions. It all depends on pilot bidding patterns. They are betting that the pilots in the closing categories are going to bid a certain way. They may get a real shock or it may go exactly as they planned. We need to start a pool to see how many days to release the results.

5 days minimum

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Word on CC is the going in game is closing on the 18th and release ~26th.

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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 2358646)

Assuming the CR update is close to reality this could qualify as MOAB?

A couple of questions on timing:

1. If the conversion window indeed is a whole year when would the NYC and CVG M88 cats be actually closed?

2. DTW 744 has got to close right on 31 Dec 2017, since all remaining a/c will be parked in DEC?

Our fleet (744) newsletter says they will carry 60 guys in each seat for three airplanes in the end state, with those ships scheduled to fly into Marana on NY Eve.

As to other poster's query about where people will bid, I can only give you one: 7ER/A in the left coast. A bit better than plug. But I must throw the Hail Mary to 350/A. I'm barely hanging on 744/B as it is, but there's only 88 pilots senior to me with 1st pref for 350 captain, so with 125 seats offered (firm rumor), you never know. Shiny new jet syndrome/queen of the fleet commander fantasy strikes again. As I eat Thankskiving dinner at a Romulus KFC, I'll be posting my tale of woe right here.

DTW for Christmas one year, nothing open, girls in tears, called employee cafe, they stayed open for us. Thank goodness for that little bottle of scotch.

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Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2359003)

So if no flying then how do they compute an ALV? I think that was the question.

They set it as low as contractually possible. They also factor in when the most pilots will be in cetegory vs fewest and tweek it to spend as little money as possible.

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Originally Posted by zippinbye (Post 2359287)

But I must throw the Hail Mary to 350/A. I'm barely hanging on 744/B as it is, but there's only 88 pilots senior to me with 1st pref for 350 captain, so with 125 seats offered (firm rumor), you never know. .

Just a quick note for any new guys, the iCrew function that shows how many people senior to you that have a bid in for an aircraft does not include people who have a displacement bid for that seat. Normally doesn't matter, but on this bid there will be a lot of displacements.

I think the most interesting thing on this bid will be how many junior Capts we produce. Senior FOs seem to enjoy their "lifestyle" too much. I'm betting 30% of the narrow body CA positions go to people hired since 2014. Everyone senior to that has a % bid in for the left seat. Just can't see the 20 year 765B who flies 200 hours a year and gets paid to stay home all winter jumping at the chance to be 717A. Thoughts?