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05-23-2017 | 07:55 AM
#541
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So... what if they awarded someone something they only wanted if they couldn't hold M88A due to seniority, but they were denied due to mil hours (not seniority) and they still want to bid M88A when they meet the requirements. Going in arguments change when the information changes.
on the downside...what you bid/awarded isn't to your liking. so what? in a relatively short while there will be another opportunity.
If you didn't get what you want because of time gates? don't sit on reserve and not fly....get the time and when the next bid comes around....swing for the fence.
The opportunity will be there. And a large portion of the awardees in this bid will be locked....so mo'better for your chances.
good luck.
these are the best of times.
05-23-2017 | 07:57 AM
#542
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: 320B
05-23-2017 | 08:27 AM
#543
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Joined: Dec 2005
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Having a hard time reconciling my math...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
05-23-2017 | 08:40 AM
#545
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Joined: Feb 2015
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From: 73na
Having a hard time reconciling my math...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
Currently you are x out of y.
New: x-23+4=x-19
y-23-10+4+12=y-17
You are now 19 seats more senior in a category 17 seats smaller.
05-23-2017 | 08:43 AM
#546
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 60
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From: 320A
Having a hard time reconciling my math...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
For the sake of numbers, lets say there were 100 pilots in your category prior to this bid and you were bidding 75. That would put you at 75% in the category. Now, applying the numbers you provided to my example you will be bidding 56 out of 102 pilots. That's 54.9% in the category. That's a nice big jump. Enjoy!
05-23-2017 | 08:45 AM
#548
Works Every Weekend
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: 737 ATL
Having a hard time reconciling my math...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
In my category, 23 people senior to me bid out and 4 senior bid in (net of +19). 10 people junior to me bid out but 12 people junior bid in (net of +2). Did I move up 19 spots? 17 spots? 2 spots? Does that mean the category shrank? What do some of you say who have been around the block longer than I? Cause I'm a little confused here...
Analysis of category movement:
https://deltaairlines-my.sharepoint....636693c7&rev=1
05-23-2017 | 08:45 AM
#549
Sick of whiners
Joined: Jun 2015
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From: 767 VEOP
No.
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The two AEs would be completely independent, each with their own conversion window. This latest one has a 12-month conversion window which the Company can only do once each year, so by definition, the next one will have the typical narrow conversion window.
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05-23-2017 | 08:48 AM
#550
Works Every Weekend
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From: 737 ATL
Each AE is separate.
They have to convert in seniority order only for the same AE.
It is entirely possible for someone on a subsequent AE to get converted either ahead or behind someone from a previous AE.
