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09-26-2017, 04:14 PM
#691
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>>That tariff amount is outrageous....<<
The proposed tariff at this preliminary stage is more of an "incentive to negotiate" I think.
Time for Ed to make a field trip to Canada and Northern Ireland (or entertain guests from these countries).
RA would probably try the "take no prisoners" approach..
--Canada cancels big order of Boeing fighter AC
--Bombardier and Delta negotiate transfer of C series order to one of DAL's partially owned subsiiaries.
--DAL places massive order with Airbus and makes it known they are done dealing with Boeing.
--PR campaign on the shortcomings of Boeing's products for this role while continuing legal appeal avenues.
This will be a pretty big "at bat" for Ed, it will be interesting to see how he handles it.
I kind of liked this, so I'll copy it:
>>Buck Foeing.<<
The proposed tariff at this preliminary stage is more of an "incentive to negotiate" I think.
Time for Ed to make a field trip to Canada and Northern Ireland (or entertain guests from these countries).
RA would probably try the "take no prisoners" approach..
--Canada cancels big order of Boeing fighter AC
--Bombardier and Delta negotiate transfer of C series order to one of DAL's partially owned subsiiaries.
--DAL places massive order with Airbus and makes it known they are done dealing with Boeing.
--PR campaign on the shortcomings of Boeing's products for this role while continuing legal appeal avenues.
This will be a pretty big "at bat" for Ed, it will be interesting to see how he handles it.
I kind of liked this, so I'll copy it:
>>Buck Foeing.<<
09-26-2017, 04:15 PM
#692
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Wow. That could be a death blow to the program. I guess we won't be seeing that bid in October...
ExIm bank, etc... Boeing owns DC. I know there's a lot of anger, but it's probably time we played nice with them. No beating them apparently...
ExIm bank, etc... Boeing owns DC. I know there's a lot of anger, but it's probably time we played nice with them. No beating them apparently...
I hope we never order another airplane from them again. The hypocrisy with them has no bounds.
-a Boeing pilot
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09-26-2017, 04:16 PM
#693
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Originally Posted by TerrainTerrain
From what I can see it’s legit, planes had fake prices. It’s over
Boeing does the exact same thing when selling their airplanes to non US carriers.
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09-26-2017, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ClimbClimbNow
>>That tariff amount is outrageous....<<
The proposed tariff at this preliminary stage is more of an "incentive to negotiate" I think.
Time for Ed to make a field trip to Canada and Northern Ireland (or entertain guests from these countries).
RA would probably try the "take no prisoners" approach..
--Canada cancels big order of Boeing fighter AC
--Bombardier and Delta negotiate transfer of C series order to one of DAL's partially owned subsiiaries.
--DAL places massive order with Airbus and makes it known they are done dealing with Boeing.
--PR campaign on the shortcomings of Boeing's products for this role while continuing legal appeal avenues.
This will be a pretty big "at bat" for Ed, it will be interesting to see how he handles it.
I kind of liked this, so I'll copy it:
>>Buck Foeing.<<
The proposed tariff at this preliminary stage is more of an "incentive to negotiate" I think.
Time for Ed to make a field trip to Canada and Northern Ireland (or entertain guests from these countries).
RA would probably try the "take no prisoners" approach..
--Canada cancels big order of Boeing fighter AC
--Bombardier and Delta negotiate transfer of C series order to one of DAL's partially owned subsiiaries.
--DAL places massive order with Airbus and makes it known they are done dealing with Boeing.
--PR campaign on the shortcomings of Boeing's products for this role while continuing legal appeal avenues.
This will be a pretty big "at bat" for Ed, it will be interesting to see how he handles it.
I kind of liked this, so I'll copy it:
>>Buck Foeing.<<
09-26-2017, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Sounds good, but do we really want this fight? It's business, and we lost. Fighting a behemoth like Boeing and their well placed friends sounds like a losing proposition. Hopefully Airbus will step in with a deal on 319s.
09-26-2017, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TerrainTerrain
From what I can see it’s legit, planes had fake prices. It’s over
Boeing is more concerned about Bombardier getting a foothold in the market and expanding beyond the C-series into something that more competes with their dated offerings. Clearly Bombardier has Quebec's ear when it comes to designing a plane from scratch.
Maybe Boeing could persuade our government to help them design a viable 757/737 replacement that will compete with the other companies offerings. There used to be much cooperation between NASA and Boeing on design of airplanes.
09-26-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Sounds good, but do we really want this fight? It's business, and we lost. Fighting a behemoth like Boeing and their well placed friends sounds like a losing proposition. Hopefully Airbus will step in with a deal on 319s.
I agree that negotiations will begin. It ain't over. The tariff is WAAAAY overkill. Keep in mind that half the airplane is made in the US - Rockwell Collins makes the ProLine Fusion flight deck and P&W provides the engines. This is a ridiculous decision and I imagine the appeal will be vigorous. I can't help but wonder if this is also related to NAFTA negotiations...
09-26-2017, 04:43 PM
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To win its case before the ITC, Boeing must prove it was harmed by Bombardier’s sales practices, despite not using one of its own jets to compete for the Delta order, Dan Pearson, a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute think tank in Washington, said before Tuesday’s announcement.
“This (ITC case) cannot be a slam dunk,” said Pearson, a former ITC chairman. “I‘m having a hard time figuring out how Boeing was harmed by this.”
“This (ITC case) cannot be a slam dunk,” said Pearson, a former ITC chairman. “I‘m having a hard time figuring out how Boeing was harmed by this.”
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