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10-17-2017, 10:47 AM

#1191

David Puddy

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

Stranger things have happened, but almost no chance of Bombardier winning the ITC case, now that especially, thousands of potential US jobs in a red state are coming as a result of this case.

Also with Jetblue looking for a deal, which is almost certain now that it is backed by Airbus, there is a case for injury.

For a CS100 order? Again, until Boeing restarts the 737-600 program I am failing to see missed 737-600 sales....

10-17-2017, 10:52 AM

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For a CS100 order? Again, until Boeing restarts the 737-600 program I am failing to see missed 737-600 sales....

This isn't a decision based on facts, it's 100% political mud-wrestling.

10-17-2017, 11:05 AM

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This isn't a decision based on facts, it's 100% political mud-wrestling.

Completely agree. However, damages will need to be quantified and offering the E190 doesn't help Boeing's case.

I agree this is 100% political. It will be interesting to watch Boeing try to spin the damages for a category they no longer offer...

I can't wait for Lockheed to sue Airbus for A330/40/50 dumping and missed L-1011 orders!!!

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10-17-2017, 11:28 AM

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http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2017/10/airbus-bombardier-cseries-agreement.html

10-17-2017, 11:33 AM

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Got to hand it to douglas.....they figgured out the optimimum 2x3 seating 50yrs ago.

10-17-2017, 11:51 AM

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Got to hand it to douglas.....they figgured out the optimimum 2x3 seating 50yrs ago.

Honestly I think they stole it from the railroads. Not sure but just feels like an 88 when you're in a real train car at a museum.

10-17-2017, 11:53 AM

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I think the case was won, which is why bombardier did what it did. Boeing didn't need to offer a 736 for bombardier and quebec to have been found in the wrong.

10-17-2017, 12:06 PM

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I wonder if there is more method to all this madness. An almost bankrupt company, with a new innovative airframe that nobody seems to be ordering. Dump them in the US knowing full well Boeing will try to put a stop to it. Then they partner with a European aerospace giant and assemble them in the good old US of A. Now there is an innovative "American Made" alternative that just might swell the order books without tariff worries and they can build and sell the larger models that do compete with Boeing offerings.
My conspiracy theory of the day.

Mine is a little more simple. Throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.

Airbus be like

10-17-2017, 12:13 PM

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I think the case was won, which is why bombardier did what it did. Boeing didn't need to offer a 736 for bombardier and quebec to have been found in the wrong.

But there are differences between technical dumping and actual damages. That's the point. Technically, you could define Quebec's support as enabling Bombardier to survive and offer a competitive product. However, if the other party can't prove financial harm with a competing product, I don't see a compelling, non-political case for Boeing. Dumping is one thing, quantifiable financial harm (equal to 300%????) is another when they don't offer a competing product....

Again, using this logic, Lockheed Martin should sue Airbus for missed Tristar sales!!!!