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gzsg 06-24-2017 12:21 PM

Now if we can just buy 30 used 777s and crush United's SFO hub with our LAX hub.

Will LAX-MNL be senior?

gloopy 06-24-2017 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2384604)
Now if we can just buy 30 used 777s and crush United's SFO hub with our LAX hub.

Will LAX-MNL be senior?

That depends on your definition of we.

svergin 06-24-2017 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2384604)
Now if we can just buy 30 used 777s and crush United's SFO hub with our LAX hub.

Even if you did get 30 more used 777s tomorrow, you'd still have 54 less than United.

Plus, where would you plan on parking those 777s at LAX? That place was built for 1960s sized planes, not present day aircraft. LAX isn't built for the kind of feed you would need to do what United does in SFO.

gloopy 06-24-2017 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2384689)
Even if you did get 30 more used 777s tomorrow, you'd still have 54 less than United.

Plus, where would you plan on parking those 777s at LAX? That place was built for 1960s sized planes, not present day aircraft. LAX isn't built for the kind of feed you would need to do what United does in SFO.

All we'd have to is pay the bribe-uh, I mean, make the fairly priced market based infrastructure investment for the local community, and we could get the gate space we need.

The going rate for big city shakedow-uh, I mean airport improvement development commissions, is about a quarter billion per gate (because things really cost that much, yes they do) but first we have to pay 11B to have the same effect on stock price as if we didn't pay 11B, and then after that we'll have to do the same with many many more billions. But after that, perhaps there can be a proper investment in the needed JV partner facilities. :D

Planetrain 06-24-2017 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2384689)
Even if you did get 30 more used 777s tomorrow, you'd still have 54 lessthan United.

35 less...

(83-30-18=35)

gzsg 06-25-2017 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2384689)
Even if you did get 30 more used 777s tomorrow, you'd still have 54 less than United.

Plus, where would you plan on parking those 777s at LAX? That place was built for 1960s sized planes, not present day aircraft. LAX isn't built for the kind of feed you would need to do what United does in SFO.

Consider all the Asian carriers that fly into LAX.

And ask yourself.

What is their feed?

I've lost count, how many domestic cities do we feed LAX from?

How many domestic cites does Singapore Airlines feed Singapore from?

Zero

In my opinion we can compete head to head from LAX with any Asian carrier.

Han Solo 06-25-2017 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2384589)
gzsg screwed up a quote on page 2 and everyone that quoted that perpetuates the bad coding for that quote thread. Usually it's sailingfun!

Maybe gzsg and Sailingfun are the separate accounts of the ultimate Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde @ DAL???? :eek:

Andy 06-25-2017 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2384876)
In my opinion we can compete head to head from LAX with any Asian carrier.

Hmm. Isn't Delta's business model to JV out almost all of the heavy international flying? That being the case, they won't need any used 777s.

notEnuf 06-25-2017 08:09 AM

http://news.delta.com/sites/default/...ographic-1.png

Count the number of red dots vs. the number of blue dots. There's your answer. :mad:

svergin 06-25-2017 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 2384820)
35 less...

(83-30-18=35)

United has 9 more 777s being delivered by the end of 2017. So it would be 92 on the property. Let's just call it 44 less. But the point is LAX doesn't support a single airline like ATL, SFO, DFW, etc to be able to have a massive WB fleet there, because those things need massive small jet feed, which nobody has enough of in LAX. Terminal 9 being built for United only adds 8 or 9 gates and it still won't be enough. And it won't be ready until 2022.


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