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Navmode 06-23-2017 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2384048)
If the C-Series is as big of a success as it appears to be on paper and in our collective heads, we won't have to boycott Boeing. There will be another major player in town, one that will hopefully force Boeing to innovate instead of stretch.


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Let's just hope they don't have the same issues that spirit and Lufthansa has had with the P&W geared engines in their a320 neos :rolleyes:

David Puddy 06-23-2017 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Navmode (Post 2384077)
Let's just hope they don't have the same issues that spirit and Lufthansa has had with the P&W geared engines in their a320 neos :rolleyes:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...e-up-e-435950/

Relevant points from the article:

"We have had no issue with the PW1500," Bombardier adds. "We are pleased with the CSeries entry-into-service experience and engine performance."

"The CSeries and engine combination was tested much more extensively than any of our competitors, and the result we see is a much more mature product in service," Bombardier adds. P&W says the 1500G has a 99.9% reliability rate, calling the engine's entry into service "better than anticipated".

n9810f 06-23-2017 02:09 PM

What a D O G the Mad Dog -90 is.

gzsg 06-23-2017 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=sailingfun;2383997]There will be a RFP to replace the MD90's in the Aug timeframe. I am sure it will include the expected delivery times. Probably 4 or 5 years out before the first swapout.[/QUOTE

IMO the 88 and the 90 will disappear much faster. They simply can't do all the training.

Today is their best and easiest day for handling the training volume.

Each and every hour it gets worse for the next decade.

I hate to be so upbeat, but the economy is going to be strong for the next decade and more. Resulting in more domestic growth making their training challenge all the more difficult.

Denny Crane 06-23-2017 04:56 PM

I sure hope you are right....about the economy that is......:)

Denny

sailingfun 06-23-2017 06:44 PM

[QUOTE=gzsg;2384130]

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2383997)
There will be a RFP to replace the MD90's in the Aug timeframe. I am sure it will include the expected delivery times. Probably 4 or 5 years out before the first swapout.[/QUOTE

IMO the 88 and the 90 will disappear much faster. They simply can't do all the training.

Today is their best and easiest day for handling the training volume.

Each and every hour it gets worse for the next decade.

I hate to be so upbeat, but the economy is going to be strong for the next decade and more. Resulting in more domestic growth making their training challenge all the more difficult.

You have been telling us the training department was going to collapse for the last 10 years. Not a single prediction on that has come true.

sailingfun 06-23-2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2384080)
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...e-up-e-435950/

Relevant points from the article:

"We have had no issue with the PW1500," Bombardier adds. "We are pleased with the CSeries entry-into-service experience and engine performance."

"The CSeries and engine combination was tested much more extensively than any of our competitors, and the result we see is a much more mature product in service," Bombardier adds. P&W says the 1500G has a 99.9% reliability rate, calling the engine's entry into service "better than anticipated".

If they don't get another large order and soon the whole issue may be decided on the CS100/300 without the aircraft getting a fair chance.

gzsg 06-24-2017 03:24 AM

[QUOTE=sailingfun;2384265]

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2384130)

You have been telling us the training department was going to collapse for the last 10 years. Not a single prediction on that has come true.

How many positions were posted on the AE?

How many did they fill?

Not only did they not fill over 20% of the positions, they did only a small portion of the waterfall.

Your like Kevin Bacon in Animal House.

Everything is just fine!!!!!!

gzsg 06-24-2017 03:25 AM

[QUOTE=gzsg;2384355]

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2384265)

How many positions were posted on the AE?

How many did they fill?

Not only did they not fill over 20% of the positions, they did only a small portion of the waterfall.

You're like Kevin Bacon in Animal House.

Everything is just fine!!!!!!


sailingfun 06-24-2017 05:53 AM

[QUOTE=gzsg;2384355]

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2384265)

How many positions were posted on the AE?

How many did they fill?

Not only did they not fill over 20% of the positions, they did only a small portion of the waterfall.

Your like Kevin Bacon in Animal House.

Everything is just fine!!!!!!

They filled basically everything accept 35 crews on the A350. They will fill those on a January bid that will have a conversion window ending concurrent with the one year bid. The other stuff was the usual new hire positions. You can relax everything is fine.


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