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Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2388117)

Gzsg walking into Delta Marketing to speak his knowledge of airline economics is similar to what we'll see soon when McGregor walks into the ring with Mayweather to show his boxing skills.

Mic drop right there.

HMV for an -88 is $4M. Apparently a HMV for a -90 is $22,000,000. It's a bunch of $ to pay for already depreciated, older, less efficient aircraft in a much smaller category. Sending them to the desert kinda makes sense but my degree was in marketing.

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Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 2388259)

Plus, the MD88 and 90 are uncomfortable and loud from a pax perspective compared to other fleet types. The MD88, in particular, is a disgrace from the pax perspective - even Spirit A319s are more comfortable. Heaven forbid if you are unlucky enough to be seated in the last 10 rows of the MD88 - bring your Bose noise cancellers. Not "business friendly" like the Airbus, Boeing and incoming CSeries. If Delta really wants to become the airline of choice for business travelers, like the smaller RJs, it's time for the ageing 88 & 90 to be expeditiously retired to the boneyard....

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2388097)

If they are profitable why would we drop them? RA was anything but a fool when it came to route planning and as he stated many times each route needed to pull its weight. Next time you are in ATL for training walk over to the Marketing area and talk with the folks running Asia. I suspect you might find it enlighting and you might actually be surprised at how competent they actually are.

So a JV partner can do the flying.

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2388315)

So a JV partner can do the flying.

We make a lot less money that way.

Sailing

Let me ask you where you stood as management was marching to over 800 regional jets?

Did you parrot their words about how they would feed the wide bodies?

I think we can all agree management was severely wrong and ****ed away billions.

How much did Delta pay for Comair? You remember Comair don't you?

There are 18 nonstops between Korea and the U.S.

We fly 3. Korean flies 15.

And the 80 cities beyond Korea?

We fly none.

Keep repeating management's talking points.

Sailing what was the ROI on the Comair purchase?

Yeah baby, they know how to make money.

"The RJs are saving our bacon!!!"

Jerry, how long ago was that, and under which mgmt team's watch?

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2388328)

Totally different management team back then and I opposed anything over 69 seats going to the regionals. Not sure your point on flights to Korea. It's their national airline and the JV has not even been implemented. How many total flights from the US on multiple US airlines are there. If you are going to survive in the modern world you need a network. It's worked remarkably well the last 5 years for Delta pilots. You are a numbers guy, post the hiring numbers at the big 4! Pretty astounding how many more pilots we have hired compared to everyone else!

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2388328)

We fly 3. Korean flies 15.

And the 80 cities beyond Korea?

We fly none.

This is to anyone (not necessarily to gzsg) I have not seen anything published yet: do we know for certain the "scope" of the Korean JV?

1) Is it JV "US-Korea" only + codeshare beyond?
Or

2) is it JV on all Korean airlines destinations?

Big, big difference between the two.