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DogWhisperer 07-03-2017 07:29 AM

HMV's on the 90's are running three times the price of an 88...don't know why but that's the number I was given. The idea is to put 12 90's in the desert with lower times...pull them out to replace 88's as they go bye-bye. I, honestly, don't see the 90's being around more than the next 5-6 years. Hate to see her go....flew her out of DFW and she has a special place in my heart...

CheapTrick 07-03-2017 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2388933)
I have never heard of a 22 million dollar HMV. You can buy a new C series or 737-700 for that price. The 757 is considered a expensive HMV and they run 5 to 7 million.

Yep. At $22M for a heavy maintenance visit, you really do have to consider other, newer options. But I'm only passing along a random conversation from a "pretty plugged in" guy. I guess the main thing is that the HMV is costing more than the plane is probably worth. So perhaps a brand new airplane w/brand new tech (except for the overhead panel, windows, nose, and manual trim wheel) is worth replacing it?

DWC CAP10 USAF 07-03-2017 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2388482)
Well said.

Not only post the hiring numbers, post the upgrade times and the average profit sharing percentage of the big 4.

I think I heard the other day United has suspended hiring. That won't happen at Delta for the foreseeable future vice a Black Swan event.

True about UAL. Their last new hire Indoc was 2 May and last round of interviews was end of May. Word on the street is no new hire Indoc until the Nov/Dec time frame due all the displacement training going on from accelerated closing of 747 operations.

MasterOfPuppets 07-03-2017 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2388482)
Well said.

Not only post the hiring numbers, post the upgrade times and the average profit sharing percentage of the big 4.

I think I heard the other day United has suspended hiring. That won't happen at Delta for the foreseeable future vice a Black Swan event.

Spoken like someone who is just about to lose everything. The problem with having such a quick upgrade is you can't learn from the wiser Captains. Hold on to some of that money you are bragging about because change will come swiftly.

Denny Crane 07-04-2017 03:04 AM

Jealous? :)

Denny

mainlineAF 07-04-2017 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2389300)
Spoken like someone who is just about to lose everything. The problem with having such a quick upgrade is you can't learn from the wiser Captains. Hold on to some of that money you are bragging about because change will come swiftly.



What did he say that is inaccurate? I'm sure he appreciates the free financial advice though.

2StgTurbine 07-04-2017 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2389300)
]The problem with having such a quick upgrade is you can't learn from the wiser Captains.

You are forgetting that many have previous experience at other airlines as an FO flying with "wiser Captains."

OOfff 07-04-2017 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 2389426)
You are forgetting that many have previous experience at other airlines as an FO flying with "wiser Captains."

Many have been "wiser captains" for years or even decades

Milk Man 07-04-2017 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 2389426)
You are forgetting that many have previous experience at other airlines as an FO flying with "wiser Captains."

Yea but they arent Delta CAs. :D

ItnStln 07-04-2017 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2384801)
All we'd have to is pay the bribe-uh, I mean, make the fairly priced market based infrastructure investment for the local community, and we could get the gate space we need.

The going rate for big city shakedow-uh, I mean airport improvement development commissions, is about a quarter billion per gate (because things really cost that much, yes they do) but first we have to pay 11B to have the same effect on stock price as if we didn't pay 11B, and then after that we'll have to do the same with many many more billions. But after that, perhaps there can be a proper investment in the needed JV partner facilities. [emoji3]

I think you had it right the first time


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