S2B
11-22-2017 | 04:36 PM
#11
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2007
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Double pay on holidays solves so many issues. I still don't know why we work for the same rate on major holidays.
Those who don't care about the holidays will bid them so those who do care don't have to work. If you do get "stuck" working a trip you could buy your significant other a ticket to come with you and still be ahead money wise.
The S2B option is a nice gesture that basically helps nobody. As the guy above said even the S2's are not that much help. I came back from Rome a couple months ago and there were 20 non rev's listed.......EVERY SINGLE ONE listed as an S2.
Those who don't care about the holidays will bid them so those who do care don't have to work. If you do get "stuck" working a trip you could buy your significant other a ticket to come with you and still be ahead money wise.
The S2B option is a nice gesture that basically helps nobody. As the guy above said even the S2's are not that much help. I came back from Rome a couple months ago and there were 20 non rev's listed.......EVERY SINGLE ONE listed as an S2.
11-22-2017 | 06:00 PM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 12,836
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From: window seat
And bad "morale" for pilots trying to get to work or to home on the holidays. Your spouse gets 6 S2's a year like everyone else. There is no reason to get more than that at full S2 priority. S2B is incredibly generous as it is.
11-22-2017 | 06:06 PM
#13
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,599
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It's a good gesture, but not really that generous. I wonder how many actually get used?
Holiday pay would be in the incredibly generous category. How about no S2B passes and holiday meals at hubs for the office cadre and the few pilots who are passing through with more than a 50 minute turn in exchange for premium pay on holidays?
Holiday pay would be in the incredibly generous category. How about no S2B passes and holiday meals at hubs for the office cadre and the few pilots who are passing through with more than a 50 minute turn in exchange for premium pay on holidays?
11-22-2017 | 08:41 PM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2011
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It's a good gesture, but not really that generous. I wonder how many actually get used?
Holiday pay would be in the incredibly generous category. How about no S2B passes and holiday meals at hubs for the office cadre and the few pilots who are passing through with more than a 50 minute turn in exchange for premium pay on holidays?
Holiday pay would be in the incredibly generous category. How about no S2B passes and holiday meals at hubs for the office cadre and the few pilots who are passing through with more than a 50 minute turn in exchange for premium pay on holidays?
11-22-2017 | 09:01 PM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,605
Likes: 12
From: A320 Left seat
11-23-2017 | 02:38 AM
#16
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 292
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From: Golf course, mostly.
[QUOTE=RockyBoy;2470689]Double pay on holidays solves so many issues. I still don't know why we work for the same rate on major holidays.
^^^Exactly! Didn't the FA's just get their PS back because "we're all DAL employees and we should all be treated the same?" Holiday pay should be an easy win for us in the next contract based on the company line when they reinstated the PS for the FA's. If we're going to work for the same rate on major holidays, the company shouldn't have the ability to "may deny regardless of reserve levels" IVD's and APD's 2 days prior and 1 day after major holidays. We're giving up 4 days of schedule flexibility for every ONE day that the company declares a holiday. Let's level the playing field on the next contract.
^^^Exactly! Didn't the FA's just get their PS back because "we're all DAL employees and we should all be treated the same?" Holiday pay should be an easy win for us in the next contract based on the company line when they reinstated the PS for the FA's. If we're going to work for the same rate on major holidays, the company shouldn't have the ability to "may deny regardless of reserve levels" IVD's and APD's 2 days prior and 1 day after major holidays. We're giving up 4 days of schedule flexibility for every ONE day that the company declares a holiday. Let's level the playing field on the next contract.
11-23-2017 | 03:50 AM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 20,883
Likes: 197
[QUOTE=Tee1Up;2470876]
The other employees are going to love it when they start getting 16% in their retirement plan! Unless of course the company demands we go down to their percentage to level the field!
Double pay on holidays solves so many issues. I still don't know why we work for the same rate on major holidays.
^^^Exactly! Didn't the FA's just get their PS back because "we're all DAL employees and we should all be treated the same?" Holiday pay should be an easy win for us in the next contract based on the company line when they reinstated the PS for the FA's. If we're going to work for the same rate on major holidays, the company shouldn't have the ability to "may deny regardless of reserve levels" IVD's and APD's 2 days prior and 1 day after major holidays. We're giving up 4 days of schedule flexibility for every ONE day that the company declares a holiday. Let's level the playing field on the next contract.
^^^Exactly! Didn't the FA's just get their PS back because "we're all DAL employees and we should all be treated the same?" Holiday pay should be an easy win for us in the next contract based on the company line when they reinstated the PS for the FA's. If we're going to work for the same rate on major holidays, the company shouldn't have the ability to "may deny regardless of reserve levels" IVD's and APD's 2 days prior and 1 day after major holidays. We're giving up 4 days of schedule flexibility for every ONE day that the company declares a holiday. Let's level the playing field on the next contract.
11-23-2017 | 04:50 AM
#19
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 20,883
Likes: 197
11-23-2017 | 05:25 AM
#20
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 2,960
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From: Power top
[QUOTE=sailingfun;2470902]I think the "me too" idea comes into play when cherry picking some good deals non cons enjoy. Not too many to pick.
