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Old 01-22-2018 | 01:50 PM
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Old 01-22-2018 | 02:27 PM
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They hit a large flock of seagulls. One engine quit and the other engine was destroyed and would not have made it around the pattern. The nose wheel was off the ground when tha abort was initiated.
Yep. I happened to see this very event happen right in front of my eyes while I was a flight instructor at SNA airport. I was at the base of the old tower right alongside 19R (now 20R) and heard the BOOM and looked up just as the nose was coming back down to the ground. I thought there was NO WAY he was going to stop, but stop he did. I've never seen an airplane decelerate and come to a complete stop so quickly. It was unbelievable. He did stop slightly past the threshold, though - maybe 100-200 feet into the overrun.

They didn't move the airplane for a while, so we (the instructors and other employees of the FBO I worked for) decided to check it out up close. Dead seagulls were stuck in the nosegear and main gear, and one engine had little molten balls of metal in the tailpipe.

I will never forget that episode. The quick reaction by the captain to abort PAST Vr saved the day in this instance.
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Old 01-22-2018 | 02:28 PM
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I'll take Airbus and the points. How much and how long does it take to develop the 322 vs 797?
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Old 01-22-2018 | 02:32 PM
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I'll take Airbus and the points. How much and how long does it take to develop the 322 vs 797?
And when they're done AB will still be common cockpit and BA will have another orphan. And probably be just as "American made" as the BA one.
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Old 01-22-2018 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'll take Airbus and the points. How much and how long does it take to develop the 322 vs 797?
Realistically:
Airbus, 5 years, and $2 billion maximum.

Boeing, 10 years, and $15 billion minimum.
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Old 01-22-2018 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They hit a large flock of seagulls. One engine quit and the other engine was destroyed and would not have made it around the pattern. The nose wheel was off the ground when tha abort was initiated.
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Old 01-22-2018 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Realistically:
Airbus, 5 years, and $2 billion maximum.

Boeing, 10 years, and $15 billion minimum.
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Old 01-22-2018 | 03:53 PM
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And when they're done AB will still be common cockpit and BA will have another orphan. And probably be just as "American made" as the BA one.
We integrate nothing.

And we reject nature.

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Old 01-22-2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
They decelerated so fast the Captain's comb-over made it nearly impossible to see the runway.
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Old 01-22-2018 | 07:55 PM
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