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#251
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Anyone who loves the 757 (or Boeing really for that matter) can thank Harry Stonechipher. He shut down the 757 with a big dick battle with Mullally. The 757 wasn't selling, Stonechipher called out Alan's cajones, challenged him that he didn't have the balls to shut down the 757 line - and Alan did, wanting the top job at Boeing Commercial. Such a shame. Imagine the 757 with a new wing and engines. The A321NEO is still a dog.
#252
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If you mean a cockpit with no commonality between the rest of the Boeing fleet when you wrote "orphan", I believe that it might not be completely true. The 787 and 777 are operated as a single fleet by several operators. It's safe to assume Boeing would design the 797 to have a common cockpit with the 787, the current and future 777. I think (and hope for Boeing and Boeing pilots) that the 737 is and will be the only "orphan" left in their line up.
#253
Anyone who loves the 757 (or Boeing really for that matter) can thank Harry Stonechipher. He shut down the 757 with a big dick battle with Mullally. The 757 wasn't selling, Stonechipher called out Alan's cajones, challenged him that he didn't have the balls to shut down the 757 line - and Alan did, wanting the top job at Boeing Commercial. Such a shame. Imagine the 757 with a new wing and engines. The A321NEO is still a dog.
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IOW its hardly the pent up panacea many are nostalgically pining over.
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Exactly. The 75 is as revered as it is because of its wing and engines and that's it. Its tube isn't anything special at all. The only reason a re-winged and re-engined 757 would make sense to anyone its because BA could save some money keeping the same POS tube yet still have to do the lion's share of the R&D for the harder and more expensive parts of it anyway, and then when they're done they'd still be half a step behind.
IOW its hardly the pent up panacea many are nostalgically pining over.
IOW its hardly the pent up panacea many are nostalgically pining over.
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As for the tube, I'm not sure if the 75 is even wider. The -200 is barely acceptable on longer flights and the -300 is awful especially at the gate. Even worse than the -900. Its too bad 2+ door deplaning is absolutely impossible from a spirit of ingenuity point of view with the limited technology we have in this day and age. Maybe some day.
Most of the cramped cockpit in the 73 is self induced by sadistic engineers who didn't care and just wanted to go home on a Friday. Early, because it was a 3 day weekend Friday. If they moved the breaker boxes back a bit (or just made them thinner), rerouted some of the fan ducts and did away with that huge bottom screen that only displays a couple things and literally doesn't need to be there and calmed down the buzz saw trim partial collider it wouldn't be that bad.
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The sticker price on a new 757 would be significantly higher, than a new A322. Also, the Airbus wins on pax comfort hands down, it's not close either.
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I'm not sure why this perception exists. Is it noise or seat width? According to seat guru, so check my source, please, the coach seat on a 320 is .2 inches wider than the 737 at the mothership, and the first class seat width is identical. Slightly more comfortable on a longer flight to be sure, but not that big of a difference. Not trying to start a huge Boeing vs. Airbus thing, just curious what the hands down part is all about.
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I'm not sure why this perception exists. Is it noise or seat width? According to seat guru, so check my source, please, the coach seat on a 320 is .2 inches wider than the 737 at the mothership, and the first class seat width is identical. Slightly more comfortable on a longer flight to be sure, but not that big of a difference. Not trying to start a huge Boeing vs. Airbus thing, just curious what the hands down part is all about.
#260
I'm not sure why this perception exists. Is it noise or seat width? According to seat guru, so check my source, please, the coach seat on a 320 is .2 inches wider than the 737 at the mothership, and the first class seat width is identical. Slightly more comfortable on a longer flight to be sure, but not that big of a difference. Not trying to start a huge Boeing vs. Airbus thing, just curious what the hands down part is all about.
Like mesabah says, I'll take the e jet cabin any day, then 2 seat side of 88, then Airbus,
then 737/757.
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