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01-16-2018, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vyperdriver

So the question in 1 or 2 years for the negotiating committee will be, does the 321 move to 757 pay rates? If the argument centers around passengers being moved per jet, this could be an interesting point to be made. The plan for the NEO with the ACF configuration is 197 pax seats I believe. Thoughts?

ALPA= “what are you willing to give up for that?”

01-16-2018, 04:07 PM

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I was just talking with a guy that is finishing up his 321NEO checkout at HA.

The Pratt motors take up to 4 minutes to start! It tries to get the temperature nice and even by cooling some parts and running hot oil to warm up other parts. The great news is they are 35k... just shy of the 757!

01-16-2018, 04:45 PM

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He was exaggerating just a bit. Still I think the single axle trucks and wing area are the bigger performance issues.

01-16-2018, 04:50 PM

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Standby for folding wingtips and the 3 wheel axle.

Most with experience operating reduction gearbox engines are familiar with stabilizg temps.

Oh...and a little thing called a 'chips light'

01-16-2018, 05:01 PM

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There goes Pratt ...

01-16-2018, 05:02 PM

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... and there goes Whitney.

01-16-2018, 05:16 PM

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They do have the coolest logo.

The gtf is the future. Growing pains and all.

my question is does it have an EPR gage?

01-16-2018, 05:47 PM

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Airbus has produced double bogey A320s in the past, I’m not sure the penalties. All of these aspects combined could be a 757 replacement.

01-16-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

He was exaggerating just a bit. Still I think the single axle trucks and wing area are the bigger performance issues.

Actually, he wasn't. Had a discussion with the bus folks a couple months ago and they described the start up process identically. You probably misread (the usual)... the operative portion is "up to."

We're running ATL-LAX now with them with no performance issues... more power and going a lot farther on the same fuel would help, wouldn't it?

01-16-2018, 05:50 PM

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He was exaggerating just a bit. Still I think the single axle trucks and wing area are the bigger performance issues.

Spirit pilot told me 3-4 minutes. I've never flown it, you?

As to the wheels and wings, we will put that over there on the a321 can't fly to the west coast trips, won't be ordered, can't sit as many, can't cross the pond and whatever other dumb thing it was said it can't do.

Delta has 220 or so on order, 320 possibly. Of just 321s.