Calendar day
01-12-2018 | 03:26 PM
#31
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That's why they should only be allowed in hard lines of time. No one can get a line unless they bid it. Any unbid lines (extremely unlikely) would dump all of them into open time and any reserve assigned one, once blocked in, would be off until 10AM the following morning.
01-12-2018 | 05:50 PM
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My guess is these would give the FRB quite a workout. I’m not doing them. I won’t do red-eyes either. If someone else wants them, they can have them. They are unsafe. I hope we don’t add risk to our operations. That early morning non-rev flight might get a second look, I don’t want to be on those flights. WOCL disruption and sleep cycle adaptation have been linked to senility and other cognitive issues. It’s not worth it.
01-13-2018 | 07:41 AM
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It sounds like the APA BOD will probably vote No on the Calendar day/LOS deal on 1/16. There is an uproar about what we are giving the company in exchange (basically, giving the company the green light to continue to assign trips/RAs at their discretion instead of abiding by the JCBA. There is also forgiveness for 50% of all existing grievances.)
Basically we get industry leading 5:15 Average Calendar Day, sit time and night override, and Full LOS for all our furloughed folks including retro. However in exchange we give the company what I posted above.
Thoughts?
Basically we get industry leading 5:15 Average Calendar Day, sit time and night override, and Full LOS for all our furloughed folks including retro. However in exchange we give the company what I posted above.
Thoughts?
01-13-2018 | 08:43 AM
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It sounds like the APA BOD will probably vote No on the Calendar day/LOS deal on 1/16. There is an uproar about what we are giving the company in exchange (basically, giving the company the green light to continue to assign trips/RAs at their discretion instead of abiding by the JCBA. There is also forgiveness for 50% of all existing grievances.)
Basically we get industry leading 5:15 Average Calendar Day, sit time and night override, and Full LOS for all our furloughed folks including retro. However in exchange we give the company what I posted above.
Thoughts?
Basically we get industry leading 5:15 Average Calendar Day, sit time and night override, and Full LOS for all our furloughed folks including retro. However in exchange we give the company what I posted above.
Thoughts?
01-13-2018 | 08:50 AM
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AA has other rigs that UAL and DAL do not. I believe they are a night rig and a sit time rig.
So yea, the APA will be voting down industry leading rigs.
01-13-2018 | 08:51 AM
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It sounds like the APA BOD will probably vote No on the Calendar day/LOS deal on 1/16. There is an uproar about what we are giving the company in exchange (basically, giving the company the green light to continue to assign trips/RAs at their discretion instead of abiding by the JCBA. There is also forgiveness for 50% of all existing grievances.)
Basically we get industry leading 5:15 Average Calendar Day, sit time and night override, and Full LOS for all our furloughed folks including retro. However in exchange we give the company what I posted above.
Thoughts?
Basically we get industry leading 5:15 Average Calendar Day, sit time and night override, and Full LOS for all our furloughed folks including retro. However in exchange we give the company what I posted above.
Thoughts?
Thoughts? The APA is moronic for voting this down.
01-13-2018 | 08:57 AM
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Apologies, i should have clarified. Industry leading due to the sit time override we currently have and night override we would gain, on top of the 5:15 ACD.
01-13-2018 | 08:40 PM
#39
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I love all the 30 hr layovers we have on the B717! Yeah, I don't get 8 hours sleep on the inevitable early get up the day after, but hey, since I'm over 50 I don't need that much sleep anymore. 4-6 hours sleep is plenty because I can use the 30 hours to erase any previous sleep deficit (which is what the CDO's lack - 30 hours prior).
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