Side Hustle
#891
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,419
now we are talking. We should have as many shiny buttons as we can possibly cram on to one jacket, and then a few more on the hat and pants for good measure.
#893
Originally Posted by Gone Flying;[url=tel:3334821
3334821[/url]]while I agree with most of your statement, just because “that’s the way we have always done it” does not mean it should not be changed. (In this case, with the uniform jacket/hat 😆😆 )
We’re pilots, we *****. It’s what we do, I get that.
I was mostly responding to Marcal’s ridiculous assertion the company should compensate pilots for pay lost due to being forbidden from doing outside flying.
#894
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,419
I completely agree! We’ll see what the Uniform Survey results showed. Or we won’t. And the company will make changes. Or they won’t. I’m betting on the latter.
We’re pilots, we *****. It’s what we do, I get that.
I was mostly responding to Marcal’s ridiculous assertion the company should compensate pilots for pay lost due to being forbidden from doing outside flying.
We’re pilots, we *****. It’s what we do, I get that.
I was mostly responding to Marcal’s ridiculous assertion the company should compensate pilots for pay lost due to being forbidden from doing outside flying.
given the fact I was a no hat/leather jacket type (Karbon jacket would have been even better) before DL, I’m surprised they even called 😂
#895
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
If anything they're too permissive. The company has no obligation to allow outside flying when it faces FAR limits for what you can do. Any outside civilian flying it allows is at its discrection as it should be unless you're facing imminent furlough, a UNA or some other special case.
#896
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,110
LOLwut?
If anything they're too permissive. The company has no obligation to allow outside flying when it faces FAR limits for what you can do. Any outside civilian flying it allows is at its discrection as it should be unless you're facing imminent furlough, a UNA or some other special case.
If anything they're too permissive. The company has no obligation to allow outside flying when it faces FAR limits for what you can do. Any outside civilian flying it allows is at its discrection as it should be unless you're facing imminent furlough, a UNA or some other special case.
I'm saying that ONLY IN THE EVENT THEY SAY NO, they should have to compensate.
For instance, I know a guy who wanted to do some CFI work outside. He was straight up told no with no explanation. If he is entirely responsible for FAR117, etc. Why should Delta be able to park him and not compensate him for his potential loss of income from acting as a CFI? I told him he should send Delta a bill for his lost income.(Tongue in cheek)
#897
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,110
I'm only talking about when they say you can't. Flying airplanes is our only trade. If they restrict it, how is that fair at all?
By the way, I have personally been approved in the past but that was a long time ago. At this point, I would never fly outside bc they risk of incident/accident/violation is to great to jeopardize this job.
#898
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,716
Please see my post to Gloopy below. There is nothing ridiculous about allowing a company to monopolize your trade without compensating for it when they restrict it. If you fly your line/reserve and can fall within FAR117 with your outside flying, I personally believe the company should have no right to restrict you and if they do, they should have to compensate you.
I'm only talking about when they say you can't. Flying airplanes is our only trade. If they restrict it, how is that fair at all?
I'm only talking about when they say you can't. Flying airplanes is our only trade. If they restrict it, how is that fair at all?
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