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Old 05-29-2018 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gliderguider
Might I suggest keeping a lower profile?
Pretty sure he's saying that to troll more
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Old 05-29-2018 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Chakerik
Pretty sure he's saying that to troll more
Yeah. Looks like he's an Atlas.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Sweet. Two new hire rj soyboys talking ****. About the AIM. That they can’t read.
Solid on point assessment, as usual, FTB.


Now I'm gonna spend my next 4 days reporting light chop at each frequency check in.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 11:55 AM
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Just one comment to the OP. You only know what conditions YOUR ship is in. You have no idea what ANYONE else is really experiencing. How can you criticize them based on your conditions? And personally, if... as a Delta pilot I am the butt of other airlines' jokes because of turbulence reports or wind requests on short final, I really don't GAS.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Just one comment to the OP. You only know what conditions YOUR ship is in. You have no idea what ANYONE else is really experiencing. How can you criticize them based on your conditions? And personally, if... as a Delta pilot I am the butt of other airlines' jokes because of turbulence reports or wind requests on short final, I really don't GAS.
Bingo. The "seastate" for a 777 can be vastly different than that experienced by a 717 or an RJ.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 12:27 PM
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I've done O'Hare to Green Bay and I've also done ATL to Shanghai.

On a 30 minute flight, turbulence doesn't really mean too much. It's actually kind of nice, because it's a reminder to the PAX, that what they are paying for is challenging and hence worth the money.

On a heavy with 300 people and a few dozen business class seats, it's different. The people paying 10 to 15 grand don't really want or need to be reminded that flying is a challenge. They are paying because they expect we can avoid or mitigate turbulence sufficiently so that their chardonnay won't get spilled into their king clip.

Light chop in a long haul heavy with the full service is a real thing. The pilots I fly with that are worth anything would be actively working to find or make a better ride.

And then, when it's smoother, they go back to planning how to spend the profit sharing.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
I've done O'Hare to Green Bay and I've also done ATL to Shanghai.

On a 30 minute flight, turbulence doesn't really mean too much. It's actually kind of nice, because it's a reminder to the PAX, that what they are paying for is challenging and hence worth the money.

On a heavy with 300 people and a few dozen business class seats, it's different. The people paying 10 to 15 grand don't really want or need to be reminded that flying is a challenge. They are paying because they expect we can avoid or mitigate turbulence sufficiently so that their chardonnay won't get spilled into their king clip.

Light chop in a long haul heavy with the full service is a real thing. The pilots I fly with that are worth anything would be actively working to find or make a better ride.

And then, when it's smoother, they go back to planning how to spend the profit sharing.
Yeah, us narrowbody guys love getting rattled around and love letting the pax be uncomfortable. Ditto for the regional guys. If only I could be a widebody guy with 300 people on board, I could figure out how to reach the level of aviation professionalism as you, and learn how I can find a better ride (I’ll leave the “making” a better ride to you, bc that seems like an impossibility).

And “people who are on a 30 minute flight should be reminded that flying is challenging, so it’s ok to make them uncomfortable with turbulence, but those on a longhaul 777 shouldn’t.” Did I seriously just read that from a delta widebody pilot? And your turbulence avoidance is for the guys who paid $10-15k in the front, not for the other 260 in coach? Interesting.

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Old 05-29-2018 | 02:24 PM
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Whatsa" King Clip? I'm pretty sure they run out before they get to 31B.
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Old 05-29-2018 | 03:35 PM
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It’s only choppy in coach:

http://dai.ly/x2q4lmi
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Old 05-29-2018 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Sweet. Two new hire rj soyboys talking ****. About the AIM. That they can’t read.
Lol not fair to lump all RJ guys into one group of deplorables. We do a ***pretty*** good job of filtering out the riff raff so that those like the OP stay in their RJ. Of course once in a while one slips through the cracks. As a 3 going on 4 year guy, I have adapted to the DL way of life. Also don’t hear many guys complain about rides any more than any other airline. The other day UPS was complaining about two different altitudes. He said constant bumps and light turb.

That probably would’ve made the OPs head explode.
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