DALPA C19 Survey
09-02-2018 | 01:16 PM
#121
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Do you truly feel any different about your sick leave available to you than you did last contract, or the one prior to that? I don't. I don't call in sick when I'm not sick, and I don't hesitate for a nanosecond to call in sick if I feel a bit under the weather. Nothing in the contract has changed my perspective. I'm not seeing the outrage here.
Plenty of commuters love those trips. I'm guessing the bit above was just a vent, but how would you quantify "how wrecked you feel?" I always felt far more wrecked at the end of a domestic redeye than I ever did an international trip (disclaimer: I rarely flew the 6-days, but did fly the deep SA a lot). However, there are others that think the opposite. To each his/her own and all that.
Plenty of commuters love those trips. I'm guessing the bit above was just a vent, but how would you quantify "how wrecked you feel?" I always felt far more wrecked at the end of a domestic redeye than I ever did an international trip (disclaimer: I rarely flew the 6-days, but did fly the deep SA a lot). However, there are others that think the opposite. To each his/her own and all that.
It's the principle of it with sick. In the past 3 years I've used a grand total of 40 sick hours...but I'm still against the archaic language. We need either voluntary verification back or kill the rolling 12 month and have it reset on DOH. The way it's written it's too easy to use legit sick calls then be required to go to the doctor for a note for a head cold. Voluntary verification eliminates that.
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09-02-2018 | 01:22 PM
#122
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It's the principle of it with sick. In the past 3 years I've used a grand total of 40 sick hours...but I'm still against the archaic language. We need either voluntary verification back or kill the rolling 12 month and have it reset on DOH. The way it's written it's too easy to use legit sick calls then be required to go to the doctor for a note for a head cold. Voluntary verification eliminates that.
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09-02-2018 | 03:02 PM
#123
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Do you truly feel any different about your sick leave available to you than you did last contract, or the one prior to that? I don't. I don't call in sick when I'm not sick, and I don't hesitate for a nanosecond to call in sick if I feel a bit under the weather. Nothing in the contract has changed my perspective. I'm not seeing the outrage here.
The problem is with the sick leave policy that requires a doctor visit when one is not necessary. Example: I had an issue back in March that I used 75 hrs of SL. That took me over the top of 100 hours and I now have to get a QHCP note to use SL even if I only have a cold. I think this note/verification requirement is hogwash (substitute a word that begins with B and ends with T).
If the company thinks there area abusers, then go after them not the rest of us. They have no problem figuring out who was not around for their short call periods, I would think they could figure this one out as easily.
Denny
09-02-2018 | 03:23 PM
#124
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For me, it's not a question of whether to call in sick or not. If I'm sick, I will call in. It's also not a question of amount of sick leave available. I think its adequate.
The problem is with the sick leave policy that requires a doctor visit when one is not necessary. Example: I had an issue back in March that I used 75 hrs of SL. That took me over the top of 100 hours and I now have to get a QHCP note to use SL even if I only have a cold. I think this note/verification requirement is hogwash (substitute a word that begins with B and ends with T).
If the company thinks there area abusers, then go after them not the rest of us. They have no problem figuring out who was not around for their short call periods, I would think they could figure this one out as easily.
Denny
The problem is with the sick leave policy that requires a doctor visit when one is not necessary. Example: I had an issue back in March that I used 75 hrs of SL. That took me over the top of 100 hours and I now have to get a QHCP note to use SL even if I only have a cold. I think this note/verification requirement is hogwash (substitute a word that begins with B and ends with T).
If the company thinks there area abusers, then go after them not the rest of us. They have no problem figuring out who was not around for their short call periods, I would think they could figure this one out as easily.
Denny
09-02-2018 | 04:10 PM
#125
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The company tried, and the union backed them up. So now we all wear diapers.
09-02-2018 | 04:53 PM
#126
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09-02-2018 | 04:58 PM
#127
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I'm with you, Denny. Get diagnosed with DVT (not uncommon in our profession) which doesn't require a hospital admission nor is it a broken major bone so you miss out on the exceptions but it does pull your FAA Class I for 2-3 months so now you are into seeing an MD (not merely a QHCP) for verification of a sinus infection. Seems pretty stupid in light of having to jump through hoops with the FAA (and then get past Dr. Faulkner) for approval to come off sick leave and regain your Class I.
09-02-2018 | 05:02 PM
#128
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The company stated their motivation to tighten down sick leave was excessive risk. If they have better visibility into developing pinch points because pilots are more willing to throw down with a sick status while on reserve (should we get sick-if-needed), it seems like everyone wins!
09-02-2018 | 06:08 PM
#129
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The lookback on sick leave is confusing, and I think deliberately so.
When you have a cold, but you don’t want to figure out if you need to verify, or if it will put you into the verification window, and you don’t really think it’s worth a trip to the doctor for something some sleep and chicken soup will cure. You probably shouldn’t work, but you know you can function.
So, you just decide to go work, to avoid hassle either now or later.
I think it’s been pretty well designed for that.
When you have a cold, but you don’t want to figure out if you need to verify, or if it will put you into the verification window, and you don’t really think it’s worth a trip to the doctor for something some sleep and chicken soup will cure. You probably shouldn’t work, but you know you can function.
So, you just decide to go work, to avoid hassle either now or later.
I think it’s been pretty well designed for that.
09-02-2018 | 07:08 PM
#130
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One of the big issues that they eliminated was pilots calling in sick to create enough overhead in block hours flown to be able to turn around and then pick up a green slip. Especially during the usually " critically manned" summer months!!!!!!. Naw. Nobody would ever do that, we are professional pilots, by God, with the highest standards..... Right, the company wastes negotiating capital jousting at Quiotiesque windmills....how dare I insinuate that anyone would do anything unethical or for reasons that line their pockets......???????
Well, not now since you go to the bottom of the list for GS.... unless of course you happen to be an A350 capt where they are giving out GSWC
Well, not now since you go to the bottom of the list for GS.... unless of course you happen to be an A350 capt where they are giving out GSWC
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