Great job of only reading, comprehending, cutting and pasting what YOU want. Did you purposely cut out/omit the part where he said accumulate "nights" in a "bank" for non commuters....to be used for vacation? Are you only interested in improvements that you personally value? Hmmm. Interesting

I personally rue the idea of any reserve pilot getting more pay than a line holder.....talk about a paradigm shift....reserve more senior than a regular line? Hmmmm. Interesting indeed. But I guess you are for that one because it lines YOUR pocket?

 

Mid contract improvements? How about the union holding the company's feet to the fire for pwa violations? Or the fact they aren't caving in to these JV proposals. I'd call both of those pretty good.


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That and the email list of non C44 pilots he used to solicit input from are why I can’t bring myself to vote for him.

 

Eye of the beholder I guess. No argument that violations must be defended. PWA enforcement is paramount, otherwise the specific language doesn’t matter.

“Not caving” is not the same as achieving job protections, ie improvements. Otherwise described as items that are cleared out of the way, and won’t have to be addressed in Section 6.

Blame it on the company if you want. They certainly could have a JV LOA if they would bring a legitimate proposal. However our “leaders” have been unable to effectively engage them towards such a solution. This is indisputable.

I know, I know, you’re willing to wait as long as it takes to get the right deal...that’s great, and in principle I agree. The divide comes about when we start to question how the two sides might eventually come together.

Just because we enter negotiations doesn’t mean the company is going to “cave” on their end either. Some effective leadership, to include generating/using leverage will eventually be required from the union and the company. As will the ability to get to yes when it’s finally the time for the reps to make the (always) tough decision. Johnson has pre-committed to never get there. His platform is NO. That is not leadership, it’s juvenile, emotional, obstinance.

Like I said, it remains to be seen if this strategy bears fruit. So far I have seen no meaningful gains produced by this MEC.

 

Somebody **** in your cheerios this morning? I didn't cut and paste, I quoted a portion of someone's post, and you'll note I didn't erase his or her post so others can still read it - amazing!

I have no interest in hotels or Delta being part of my vacation planning calculus. Not sure why that bugs you so much? I don't use hotels; my family prefers Air BnB and VRBO. I'm supportive of his other SC idea and stated why. The broader support we have across the seniority list for certain proposals, the better IMHO.

Just so I know your rules for me in this thread and others... should I limit my posts to items I want improved for others that don't affect me?

Plenty of reserves make more than line holders, as I'd have figured you knew if you'reyou'reat Delta. ALV is average, and significant numbers of line holders are awarded and keep lines worth less than 72 and less than ALV-2. They often clean up on GS flying and generate well over 100 hours of credit. If you've looked at wide reports recently (and for all the years I've been with Delta), you'll also know that it isn't a paradigm shift since reserve was improved in recent contracts...plenty of senior pilots love reserve, and I know multiple junior line holders who are thrilled by that fact (since they'd be commuting to reserves otherwise).

Lastly, I'd like to confess I took (and keep) this job to line my pockets. Not to see the world or please the traveling public...but to earn income to support my family. I'm shocked you pegged me so well without actually knowing me!

Anything else you want to stomp your feet about?

 

Yea, they have the company shaking in their boots......

 

I was thinking the same thing. I completely support holding the company accountable for any infraction of the contract, but in the 20 months the current administration has been in office under the direction of the current MEC, I can’t point to a single consequence that has occurred other than us pulling VB and SIL which is also a consequence for some of the folks on our side of the equation. I also can’t point to any gain that has improved my working conditions or my compensation.

 

Jesus dude, drama queen much? I live in base and would never support negotiation coconuts getting thrown at hotels. Sc above reserve? Ya I guess, but I’d rather see stuff like all deadheads greater than 5 hours=business class. All deadheads less than 5 hours=Econ comfort aisle/window. Crew meals at 5hours, vacation, training, etc etc. oh, and a one click icrew for I’m sick/now I’m not sick.

His post was fine, you need to chill the &@$@ out

 

don't think anyone ever said the company was scared. It's just nice to see the union actually defending the PWA instead of giving in to every single company ask.

 

we already get domestic crew meals @ 5 hours. I don't really fly domestic anymore but I'd love to see United's DH and crew meal language. but yes absolutely please on the sick part.