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Old 09-01-2018 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Well said, it hasn't been an easy ride for most and infighting won't help us achieve our goals. Upward we go.
Here's my view/analogy. I think we are like brothers and sisters. We can argue amongst ourselves all day long and it might even get heated but when an outsider tries to butt in and **** with my family woe be to them...

We may argue amongst ourselves but I firmly believe we will unite when management tries to **** us........and we know they will try.

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Old 09-01-2018 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Caught us, we want that and more. Gold Rolex too, at your expense. Mandatory retirement parties with ponies and strippers, at your expense.
Age 67, no 70 too. We senior guys drink babies blood and want everything. Aren't helmets mandatory in hockey?
I just have one question...what are the ponies for? I get the strippers, but ponies?
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Old 09-01-2018 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
I just have one question...what are the ponies for? I get the strippers, but ponies?
Lady Godiva reference?

A la Tijuana Mexico
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Old 09-01-2018 | 08:03 PM
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1hr of pay for SC assignment. Example. If you get 77 hrs of pay for reserve and CS gives you 3 SC assignment. You get 80 hrs of pay. You still get paid if CS gives you a trip while on SC. SC assignment gives you 1 hr of pay over the reserve guarantee.

We get 3 company paid hotels for SC or line holders a month. If you need a airport hotel 3 times a month, you are on the company dime.

Vacation: keep what we got, we get trip touching. If not, we get a extra week.
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Old 09-01-2018 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bluto13
An actual decent medical plan would be appreciated
I agree with this.
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Old 09-02-2018 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
We get 3 company paid hotels for SC or line holders a month. If you need a airport hotel 3 times a month, you are on the company dime.
Why not just get paid more?
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Old 09-02-2018 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bert Sampson
Why not just get paid more?
Small items like this could be tax free items. Add them all up and it makes a difference. To get an extra $300/mo after tax you need something like $3.50-4.00/hr increase.

I wouldn’t make this a high priority item but these smaller items could have an impact if we get creative. Allow guys to bank unused hotel rooms (figure a standard rate for credit) and non-commuters could accumulate something for vacation.

In short, it could/should be both a pay raise and attacking some more creative ways to pocket pwa value.

As others have noted these types of compensation are also less visible to outsiders which might help decouple us from negotiating for all employee groups as well.

To caveat all of the above, I lean more towards picking our few high priority items to address with fervor rather than opening with 300+ items (and the associated longer negotiating cycle).

This is a place where I’d like to see improvement from our MEC. This “hardass” approach that we’ve taken has, for better or worse, resulted in fewer improvements outside of section 6. No LOAs of substance have been signed, allowing us to clear the chaff prior to openers. It remains to be seen if this will yield results, but so far they haven’t produced much of anything with their strategy.

Remember this as you vote in the LEC elections. I favor business minded leaders over emotional blowhards that have committed to NO already (looking specifically at Jimmy Johnson, and by extension his entire “ticket”).

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Old 09-02-2018 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Small items like this could be tax free items. Add them all up and it makes a difference. To get an extra $300/mo after tax you need something like $3.50-4.00/hr increase.

I wouldn’t make this a high priority item but these smaller items could have an impact if we get creative. Allow guys to bank unused hotel rooms (figure a standard rate for credit) and non-commuters could accumulate something for vacation.

In short, it could/should be both a pay raise and attacking some more creative ways to pocket pwa value.

As others have noted these types of compensation are also less visible to outsiders which might help decouple us from negotiating for all employee groups as well.

To caveat all of the above, I lean more towards picking our few high priority items to address with fervor rather than opening with 300+ items (and the associated longer negotiating cycle).

This is a place where I’d like to see improvement from our MEC. This “hardass” approach that we’ve taken has, for better or worse, resulted in fewer improvements outside of section 6. No LOAs of substance have been signed, allowing us to clear the chaff prior to openers. It remains to be seen if this will yield results, but so far they haven’t produced much of anything with their strategy.

Remember this as you vote in the LEC elections. I favor business minded leaders over emotional blowhards that have committed to NO already (looking specifically at Jimmy Johnson, and by extension his entire “ticket”).
i think we are well aware where you stand, but i do applaud you for talking up that 'jab' you took.
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Old 09-02-2018 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
1hr of pay for SC assignment. Example. If you get 77 hrs of pay for reserve and CS gives you 3 SC assignment. You get 80 hrs of pay. You still get paid if CS gives you a trip while on SC. SC assignment gives you 1 hr of pay over the reserve guarantee.

We get 3 company paid hotels for SC or line holders a month. If you need a airport hotel 3 times a month, you are on the company dime.

Vacation: keep what we got, we get trip touching. If not, we get a extra week.
I live in base and have zero interest in company paid hotels. But pay above guarantee for short call (used or unused) would have me bid them so commuting reserves can stay at home on long call.
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Old 09-02-2018 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
i think we are well aware where you stand, but i do applaud you for talking up that 'jab' you took.
Objective evidence of mid contract improvements?

I’ve stated multiple times that I’m happy to be proven wrong (as I was with TA1->TA2). So far I’m still waiting to see the post Malone MEC perform.

Johnson was against TA2, after accidentally voting for it...he’s not going to move the rock up the hill.
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