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10-25-2018 | 10:33 AM

#41

tunes

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Originally Posted by Scoop

No one is outnumbered, you can post as much as you want. I am however, unconvinced that this is bad but as always will keep an open mind.

What I am seeing is a lot of negative speculation, which is fine, but I am not even close to conceding this is bad.

As far as more SCs go the last few times I sat reserve I was given SC every single day I was on call - unsurprisingly this changed soon after guys were found to be out of position for SC.

And if you do stand 7 SCs you are on call 21 hours less. That is almost 2 full days less of 12 hour SC per month. That is good.

Scoop

on the flip side if you were doing 3 x 12 short calls thats 36 hours and say you now do 5 x 9 you are now doing 45 hours.

10-25-2018 | 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tunes

on the flip side if you were doing 3 x 12 short calls thats 36 hours and say you now do 5 x 9 you are now doing 45 hours.

There is nothing in this change that will require additional shortcalls.

10-25-2018 | 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tunes

on the flip side if you were doing 3 x 12 short calls thats 36 hours and say you now do 5 x 9 you are now doing 45 hours.

Is that actually how it is going to play out, though? I kind of doubt it, as I’m already put on short call to the max each month on reserve and that has never exceeded 5. With a 9 hour window, it would have been the same, as there was nothing more they could do.

10-25-2018 | 10:53 AM

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So is anybody here on SC today? Call 2 early and see if they let you go!

10-25-2018 | 11:15 AM

#45

Scoop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tunes

on the flip side if you were doing 3 x 12 short calls thats 36 hours and say you now do 5 x 9 you are now doing 45 hours.

Recently I have been routinely maxed out - I repeat, this is good.

Worse case scenario - now 7*9= 63 hours of SC per month.
Worse case scenario -previous. 7*12= 84 hours of SC per month.

Now we can all speculate all kind of scenarios but are monthly maximum time of sitting SC has just gone down by 25%.

Scoop

Last edited by Scoop; 10-25-2018 at 11:31 AM.

10-25-2018 | 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tunes

on the flip side if you were doing 3 x 12 short calls thats 36 hours and say you now do 5 x 9 you are now doing 45 hours.

And if you did 7x12 that was 84, what's your point? That you know your times tables?

The data shows 95% of utilization occurs within the first 9 hours. CS routinely releases SC pilots at the 10 hour mark already. Can you fill in the blanks between 3 x 12hr and 5 x 9hr? I don't see it.

If you add coverage that captures the missing 5%, you go from averaging 5 SC per month to 5.25 per month or 3 SC per year. Your time on a short leash is still substantially reduced and for commuters, there are more nights at home, even if they add the extra 3 SC over the entire year.

I'm guessing the beer on your last layover was too cold, too free and served by a waitress who was too pretty. Can we just take the W and be happy?

10-25-2018 | 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Planetrain

Even if the likelihood of getting assigned a trip goes down after the 9th hour, it certainly doesnt absolve you of the SC obligation.
The new practice eliminates my leash 3 hours early. Thats 3 hours less of sitting in good cell coverage, 3 hours earlier I get to commute home or exit my 2 hr radius of base, 3 hours sooner I can enjoy a football game without my kiddie straw, 3 hours less I have to drive around with a suitcase in my trunk.
Everything isn't win-lose.
Enjoy a good thing!

Yep. 3 hours earlier to drink that ice cold beer waiting in the fridge.

10-25-2018 | 12:57 PM

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crewdawg

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Originally Posted by Han Solo

So is anybody here on SC today? Call 2 early and see if they let you go!

No brah...then you'll just be available for trips that much sooner! This would require more SC!

I'll hold my judgment and see if my SC's increase.

10-25-2018 | 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

I'll hold my judgment and see if my SC's increase.

I'm expecting a decrease in SC (and LC) as more of the senior pilots bid reserve and I go back to holding a line.

10-25-2018 | 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ExAF

"why are they really doing this?".

It is 100% to get reserves available earlier in the day. Example:

Day 1 current system: SC from 10am to 10PM. Not used.
Day 2: SC 8AM to 8PM.

Day 1 New System: SC from 10am to 7PM. Not used.
Day 2: SC: 5AM to 2PM.

It shifts our availability which is especially great for covering early reports during IROPS, overnight sickouts, etc.

I'm not suggesting this is a BAD thing. In fact, it increases operational reliability. If it allows guys to get home earlier thats a plus.