VAC Bid - Thanksgiving
#12
Correct. Bid for the first week that you want and bid for 2 weeks. Repeat.
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#15
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Here’s another deep-dive question. Let’s say you’re awarded some random week of vacation in December but not during Xmas. Prior to April 1, you add your SUPP vacation day to the beginning of that block of vacation. For the purpose of sliding vacation in a bid month, does this SUPP day become the new “beginning” of the vacation block (which would now technically be on a Saturday instead of a Sunday)? Or does PBS, for the purpose of determining whether a pilot has the seniority to slide his vacation to a different day in the month, still treat the original first day of that vacation block as the first day of the block during monthly PBS bidding?
As an example, you have vacation for 12/8/19 thru 12/14/19 because you couldn’t hold the week that contains Xmas. You then place your SUPP day at the beginning of that block, so now you have 12/7/19 thru 12/14/19 as your block. When it comes time to bid for December 2019 monthly schedules, let’s also assume that you don’t have the seniority to slide your vacation to get Xmas Day off. But you can slide your vacation to 12/26/19. If you do so, does your SUPP day now fall on 12/25 since it is placed a day prior to your original vacation block? Or in this instance can you still only slide the entire block, including the SUPP day, to start on 12/26?
Sorry to be so in the weeds.
As an example, you have vacation for 12/8/19 thru 12/14/19 because you couldn’t hold the week that contains Xmas. You then place your SUPP day at the beginning of that block, so now you have 12/7/19 thru 12/14/19 as your block. When it comes time to bid for December 2019 monthly schedules, let’s also assume that you don’t have the seniority to slide your vacation to get Xmas Day off. But you can slide your vacation to 12/26/19. If you do so, does your SUPP day now fall on 12/25 since it is placed a day prior to your original vacation block? Or in this instance can you still only slide the entire block, including the SUPP day, to start on 12/26?
Sorry to be so in the weeds.
#16
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Here’s another deep-dive question. Let’s say you’re awarded some random week of vacation in December but not during Xmas. Prior to April 1, you add your SUPP vacation day to the beginning of that block of vacation. For the purpose of sliding vacation in a bid month, does this SUPP day become the new “beginning” of the vacation block (which would now technically be on a Saturday instead of a Sunday)? Or does PBS, for the purpose of determining whether a pilot has the seniority to slide his vacation to a different day in the month, still treat the original first day of that vacation block as the first day of the block during monthly PBS bidding?
As an example, you have vacation for 12/8/19 thru 12/14/19 because you couldn’t hold the week that contains Xmas. You then place your SUPP day at the beginning of that block, so now you have 12/7/19 thru 12/14/19 as your block. When it comes time to bid for December 2019 monthly schedules, let’s also assume that you don’t have the seniority to slide your vacation to get Xmas Day off. But you can slide your vacation to 12/26/19. If you do so, does your SUPP day now fall on 12/25 since it is placed a day prior to your original vacation block? Or in this instance can you still only slide the entire block, including the SUPP day, to start on 12/26?
Sorry to be so in the weeds.
As an example, you have vacation for 12/8/19 thru 12/14/19 because you couldn’t hold the week that contains Xmas. You then place your SUPP day at the beginning of that block, so now you have 12/7/19 thru 12/14/19 as your block. When it comes time to bid for December 2019 monthly schedules, let’s also assume that you don’t have the seniority to slide your vacation to get Xmas Day off. But you can slide your vacation to 12/26/19. If you do so, does your SUPP day now fall on 12/25 since it is placed a day prior to your original vacation block? Or in this instance can you still only slide the entire block, including the SUPP day, to start on 12/26?
Sorry to be so in the weeds.
From the PBS Gouge:
Originally Posted by PBS Gouge
You cannot split a single group of vacation days including supplementary vacation days. They move all together or not at all. Please note that two different vacation weeks (for example PVAC and SVAC) that are touching each other are treated as two separate blocks of days that you can attempt to move
#17
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The past few years I've taken vacation over Thanksgiving and Christmas. (Yes I'm senior in category). Got to spend time with family . Didn't require flying a crappy schedule earlier in the month to make up for it. I've never heard anyone entering their golden years say, "Gee, I wish I'd spent more time at the office."
#18
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You’re probably answering my question, but from another direction. But that’s not quite what I’m asking. I’m asking of how NavBlue handles/treats the SUPP day attached to the front of the vacation block? Does it treat it in the very same manner as the rest of the regular vacation block? Or is it somewhat agnostic to that SUPP day when determine if a pilot is eligible for a vacation slide?
#19
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Here’s another deep-dive question. Let’s say you’re awarded some random week of vacation in December but not during Xmas. Prior to April 1, you add your SUPP vacation day to the beginning of that block of vacation. For the purpose of sliding vacation in a bid month, does this SUPP day become the new “beginning” of the vacation block (which would now technically be on a Saturday instead of a Sunday)? Or does PBS, for the purpose of determining whether a pilot has the seniority to slide his vacation to a different day in the month, still treat the original first day of that vacation block as the first day of the block during monthly PBS bidding?
As an example, you have vacation for 12/8/19 thru 12/14/19 because you couldn’t hold the week that contains Xmas. You then place your SUPP day at the beginning of that block, so now you have 12/7/19 thru 12/14/19 as your block. When it comes time to bid for December 2019 monthly schedules, let’s also assume that you don’t have the seniority to slide your vacation to get Xmas Day off. But you can slide your vacation to 12/26/19. If you do so, does your SUPP day now fall on 12/25 since it is placed a day prior to your original vacation block? Or in this instance can you still only slide the entire block, including the SUPP day, to start on 12/26?
Sorry to be so in the weeds.
As an example, you have vacation for 12/8/19 thru 12/14/19 because you couldn’t hold the week that contains Xmas. You then place your SUPP day at the beginning of that block, so now you have 12/7/19 thru 12/14/19 as your block. When it comes time to bid for December 2019 monthly schedules, let’s also assume that you don’t have the seniority to slide your vacation to get Xmas Day off. But you can slide your vacation to 12/26/19. If you do so, does your SUPP day now fall on 12/25 since it is placed a day prior to your original vacation block? Or in this instance can you still only slide the entire block, including the SUPP day, to start on 12/26?
Sorry to be so in the weeds.
#20
You’re probably answering my question, but from another direction. But that’s not quite what I’m asking. I’m asking of how NavBlue handles/treats the SUPP day attached to the front of the vacation block? Does it treat it in the very same manner as the rest of the regular vacation block? Or is it somewhat agnostic to that SUPP day when determine if a pilot is eligible for a vacation slide?
Once placed, the SUP Vacation day becomes part of that vacation week. PBS would reflect 07DEC (from your example) as the beginning of that vacation when you go to slide it.
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