March AE Systemwide Junior Captain Pool
03-27-2019, 03:26 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
I'm gonna take the counter to this. It is not as big as it looks. There are a lot of positions that will not be backfilled, and if they don't get 85 ATL -ER CAs they are not going to award as many in other bases. It LOOKS big on the surface, but details....
03-27-2019, 03:39 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It does not matter if they backfill on this bid. The positions will have to be backfilled in follow on bids and the timing of conversion can’t change much if at all. They are running the airline as skinny as they can.
Denny
03-27-2019, 04:04 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Why do they have to be backfilled on a future bid? Wasn’t it pointed out by CS that they will just DH if they don’t get pilots to bid off?
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03-27-2019, 07:24 PM
#34
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Position: A320 Left seat
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Backfill is caused by a pilot bidding off. You are talking about moving flying which is a bit different. They are trying to migrate the time on the cheap avoiding displacements. Moving flying generates no net advancement gain for the pilot group.
03-27-2019, 08:32 PM
#36
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Position: A320 Left seat
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Originally Posted by vyperdriver
2014 7ER capt! i kid, i kid!
I’m with you on the 320 and with all the orders, we are on an elevator right now, in terms of relative seniority but variety of flying also. The 321 is flying a lot of the 757 flights I used to do. Movement on the 757 is only happening by virtue of retirement numbers. I wouldn’t mind going back to the ER, I miss flying that 757 a lot, but I hate to give up a good thing. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the bottom 7ER A dip pretty low on this bid in NYC.
03-27-2019, 10:14 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Backfill is caused by a pilot bidding off. You are talking about moving flying which is a bit different. They are trying to migrate the time on the cheap avoiding displacements. Moving flying generates no net advancement gain for the pilot group.
Denny
03-28-2019, 01:28 AM
#38
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: NYC 7ER LCA
Posts: 900
Originally Posted by Big E 757
It’s possible in NYC. I’ve got 19 years in and I can hold it, but the difference from me to a 2015 hire is only 2000 numbers at the most. Most pilots don’t want to voluntarily be near the bottom of a category that isn’t growing. I had a bid in for the ER but only if I was 85% or higher.
03-28-2019, 03:04 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
I’m confused as to your overall opinion on this whole AE...three posts ago you say they have to backfill eventually because there aren’t any extra trained bodies laying around, but then the next post you acknowledge that they are indeed shifting the flying for certain categories to certain bases (which I think we all agree is happening). What’s the word, Brother? Your posts seem to contradict themselves.
It doesn’t get any better than this in the airline industry. Enjoy the ride! It won’t last forever.
03-28-2019, 03:32 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I have posted about all the angst that happens on every bid. Angst on a bid should be reserved for your second displacement down in a year and wondering if it’s going to lead to a furlough warning letter.
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