Jetblue set to announce trans-atlantic
04-11-2019, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They went nonstop under perfect conditions. Not going to work for routine airline ops. It was a publicity stunt.
-300 has approx 500 miles more range
B6 is getting all 300's.
04-11-2019, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by deus ex machina
If JB wants to get into the NYC/UK market, who is their market?
Their Mint service on RJs that have to make fuel stops? Biz travelers want stop overs?
Or is JB trying to attract low fare leisure travelers? Will they even tolerate stop overs?
WOW is done, NAI struggles... low fare across the Atlantic has repeatedly failed since freddie laker..
But Jetblue is gonna be new?
Their Mint service on RJs that have to make fuel stops? Biz travelers want stop overs?
Or is JB trying to attract low fare leisure travelers? Will they even tolerate stop overs?
WOW is done, NAI struggles... low fare across the Atlantic has repeatedly failed since freddie laker..
But Jetblue is gonna be new?
Originally Posted by deus ex machina
Still not answering questions...
When has a NB fleet type in routine airline operations been successful?
When has a low cost carrier been successful flying the Atlantic.
LHR is expensive wrt to taxes to operate out of.. not sure its a leisure destination... sure people want cheap airfare but they don't want to land in some satellite airport and pay just as much in ground transportation they did in airfare just to get to downtown London... a prime example is NAI.
What am I missing here...
When has a NB fleet type in routine airline operations been successful?
When has a low cost carrier been successful flying the Atlantic.
LHR is expensive wrt to taxes to operate out of.. not sure its a leisure destination... sure people want cheap airfare but they don't want to land in some satellite airport and pay just as much in ground transportation they did in airfare just to get to downtown London... a prime example is NAI.
What am I missing here...
Who asked who is their market...I didn't answer....I don't know who their martket is.
Then you mentioned mint service on an RJ....that was wrong so I corrected you.
You mentioned fuel stops....I simply pointed out Bombardier had shown the -100 can go London City to JFK non stop....and jetblue is only getting the -300 which has more range.
Yes it would only be with about 1/3 of the max seating capes, much like BA does with its all business A-318 (which does stop for fuel).
I know NO idea how the economics work out on this route. But the fuel savings from the GTF engines coupled could be the difference between making a profit (albeit small) vs losing money.
Time will tell.
04-11-2019, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Probably not off a 4900 foot runway with obstacle issues. Might even have less range.
04-11-2019, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Your origianl post you never asked when has a NB fleet type in routine airline operations been successful....you mentioned WOW and NAI in a starement, not a quesiton. Your only quesitons were about who is jetblue targeting and do they want fuel stops.
Who asked who is their market...I didn't answer....I don't know who their martket is.
Then you mentioned mint service on an RJ....that was wrong so I corrected you.
You mentioned fuel stops....I simply pointed out Bombardier had shown the -100 can go London City to JFK non stop....and jetblue is only getting the -300 which has more range.
Yes it would only be with about 1/3 of the max seating capes, much like BA does with its all business A-318 (which does stop for fuel).
I know NO idea how the economics work out on this route. But the fuel savings from the GTF engines coupled could be the difference between making a profit (albeit small) vs losing money.
Time will tell.
Who asked who is their market...I didn't answer....I don't know who their martket is.
Then you mentioned mint service on an RJ....that was wrong so I corrected you.
You mentioned fuel stops....I simply pointed out Bombardier had shown the -100 can go London City to JFK non stop....and jetblue is only getting the -300 which has more range.
Yes it would only be with about 1/3 of the max seating capes, much like BA does with its all business A-318 (which does stop for fuel).
I know NO idea how the economics work out on this route. But the fuel savings from the GTF engines coupled could be the difference between making a profit (albeit small) vs losing money.
Time will tell.
04-11-2019, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
What will be interesting will be the infrastructure component. They currently have zero. However, their ME codeshare does. Can a JV be far away?
04-11-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
Does their ME codeshare partner fly into Gatwick? I don’t know how they’ll get Heathrow slots. We didn’t have any, nor could we get any slots, until the NW merger. (If I remember correctly)
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