Dickson and ALPA
07-10-2019, 06:28 AM
#62
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
So you are saying our "whistleblower" in question is the rational entity here?
One person's "whistleblower" is another's toxic personality/messiah complex sort with an agenda.
Of course the trick is figuring out who really DOES have a legitimate claim, and who doesn't. Kind of like the following I learned in a college class. "I" is the positive connotation of a statement, "you" is the neutral, and "he" is the negative--but they all say the same thing.
I am reconsidering an issue.
You changed your mind.
He went back on his word.
I am a naturalist healer.
You are a medicine man.
He is a witch doctor.
One person's "whistleblower" is another's toxic personality/messiah complex sort with an agenda.
Of course the trick is figuring out who really DOES have a legitimate claim, and who doesn't. Kind of like the following I learned in a college class. "I" is the positive connotation of a statement, "you" is the neutral, and "he" is the negative--but they all say the same thing.
I am reconsidering an issue.
You changed your mind.
He went back on his word.
I am a naturalist healer.
You are a medicine man.
He is a witch doctor.
07-10-2019, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
Not necessarily. I have read a lot of what KP has written and I don't have a lot of positive things to say about her. The optics, however, SHOULD be bad for Dickson because he fired a whistleblower and she got her job back. The current ruling party in the Senate more times than not sides with business so while it should look bad, especially considering the attention it's gotten, I highly doubt it will move the needle on them.
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07-10-2019, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
Not necessarily. I have read a lot of what KP has written and I don't have a lot of positive things to say about her. The optics, however, SHOULD be bad for Dickson because he fired a whistleblower and she got her job back. The current ruling party in the Senate more times than not sides with business so while it should look bad, especially considering the attention it's gotten, I highly doubt it will move the needle on them.
07-10-2019, 08:45 AM
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What is there to stand by if she wasn't fired? It was stated as the basis for the majority of your opinion.
Another interpretation based on correct events is that Dickson is a hero, because he placed a pilot on paid leave (i.e. at company expense), while she was evaluated, to protect the flying public from a potential safety risk. Those are favorable optics for the head of the FAA.
Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
He'll more than likely get confirmed. The majority in the Senate drools over people who fire whistleblowers without cause. I'm sure most of them would like to see whistleblowers prosecuted for interfering with business interests
Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
Not necessarily. I have read a lot of what KP has written and I don't have a lot of positive things to say about her. The optics, however, SHOULD be bad for Dickson because he fired a whistleblower and she got her job back. The current ruling party in the Senate more times than not sides with business so while it should look bad, especially considering the attention it's gotten, I highly doubt it will move the needle on them.
Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
Got ya. I still stand by everything else.
Another interpretation based on correct events is that Dickson is a hero, because he placed a pilot on paid leave (i.e. at company expense), while she was evaluated, to protect the flying public from a potential safety risk. Those are favorable optics for the head of the FAA.
07-10-2019, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
What is there to stand by if she wasn't fired? It was stated as the basis for the majority of your opinion.
Another interpretation based on correct events is that Dickson is a hero, because he placed a pilot on paid leave to protect the flying public from a potential safety risk.
Another interpretation based on correct events is that Dickson is a hero, because he placed a pilot on paid leave to protect the flying public from a potential safety risk.
07-10-2019, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
Replace fired with disciplined. What would the general public think of his heroism that she is still flying the line?
A suspension or termination would have been discipline.
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07-10-2019, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
She was not disciplined. She was placed on PAID leave until the Section 15 proceedings were executed.
A suspension or termination would have been discipline.
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A suspension or termination would have been discipline.
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07-10-2019, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
So she should have welcomed the process and it's NBD? Would you view the process as ordinary course of business and not a threat to you but just a vacation?
I view the process as exactly what it is... A Process. That process could result in discipline. When a crew is taken offline after an incident pending investigation is that discipline? Were the LGA 88 Crew disciplined just because they were taken off the line paid?
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