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09-23-2019 | 05:35 PM
#205
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And aren’t we still within six bid periods of some 88As getting MD’d? Shouldn’t they have been reinstated before AEs, assuming they’re box was checked?
Full disclosure: I have no idea what I am talking about and will look no sooner than the drink in my hand becoming an empty glass in my hand.
Full disclosure: I have no idea what I am talking about and will look no sooner than the drink in my hand becoming an empty glass in my hand.
09-23-2019 | 06:15 PM
#206
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I also found that 800 seniority guy's bid fairly peculiar, and he'll be stuck until the bitter end whenever that might be. Heck, there's that guy in the 1200s that bid NYC 220B and now just swapped to SLC -- who knows why guys bid what they do? The results are there for us to see and if those guy didn't bid the 88 for a free move, then as you said it's STILL a lot of work -- but for no apparent reach around at the end.
09-23-2019 | 07:32 PM
#207
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When they cancelled our MDs, they referenced 22.F.15. That section doesn’t specifically reference seat locks but I believe because our MDs cancelled our seat locks, that’s what controls? Then the fact that the MDs were cancelled doesn’t change that. CR mentioned it a few times during that process, that seat locks were indeed removed.
Since it sounds like there are guys that were affected by this, I wonder how the company and the union will work this one. I could see both interpretations: From the company's view, a cancelled displacement or a reinstatement puts you right back where you were...with a seat lock. ALPA could just as well say that historically, an MD wipes out any pilot's seat lock and it's the companies fault they didn't plan correctly.
09-23-2019 | 08:05 PM
#208
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I was really wondering about this. A buddy of mine was MD'd in May and was trying to figure out if he could bid for an AE into a totally different category, or if reinstatement was his only option. Looking into 22G (or the whole contract, really), as far as I could tell, it never actually says that getting awarded an MD removes a seat lock, only that those awarded an AE or VD (or new hires) incur one.
Since it sounds like there are guys that were affected by this, I wonder how the company and the union will work this one. I could see both interpretations: From the company's view, a cancelled displacement or a reinstatement puts you right back where you were...with a seat lock. ALPA could just as well say that historically, an MD wipes out any pilot's seat lock and it's the companies fault they didn't plan correctly.
Since it sounds like there are guys that were affected by this, I wonder how the company and the union will work this one. I could see both interpretations: From the company's view, a cancelled displacement or a reinstatement puts you right back where you were...with a seat lock. ALPA could just as well say that historically, an MD wipes out any pilot's seat lock and it's the companies fault they didn't plan correctly.
09-24-2019 | 12:02 AM
#209
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#841 was the #1 M88 Capt in NYC for quite a while and a commuter from New England. and one of the nicest people you could hope to fly with. Maybe he found the A320 too comfortable and boring and just wanted to finish out his DL career flying his long-time trusty machine? 😊
09-24-2019 | 04:25 AM
#210
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#841 was the #1 M88 Capt in NYC for quite a while and a commuter from New England. and one of the nicest people you could hope to fly with. Maybe he found the A320 too comfortable and boring and just wanted to finish out his DL career flying his long-time trusty machine? 😊
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