September AE
09-26-2019, 09:58 AM
#241
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Originally Posted by gloopy
So as the 88 pilots who take other categories (as they should have been able to in the first run) will that then change any of the already awarded slots for others? Or will they just carry some small and temporary overages? If someone is "bumped" from an award from this AE, will they then be displaced, or will it simply be undone?
There might be an argument to re-run it if a junior pilot who was awarded an AE had a qualifier that would now not be satisfied when more senior pilots who were affected by the IT glitch come in above them. However, I'm thinking that could be handled on a one-by-one basis as those #s are probably quite small.
09-26-2019, 01:39 PM
#242
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The consistency of oopses makes me think contract compliance isn’t even on the radar, forget about it as a management concern. The culture is to just get “it” done no matter what “it” is. We are making more money than ever before so we must be doing it right. It’s so much easier (and cheaper with our toothless PWA and the RLA) to beg forgiveness than ask permission. Get on board man, because... profits and... sharing.
If any of this was at all concerning to management, they’d have an accountant studying the problem already.
If any of this was at all concerning to management, they’d have an accountant studying the problem already.
09-26-2019, 05:21 PM
#243
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So if they don’t rerun the bid, couldn’t folks junior to them be affected if they bid a plane at seniority XX% and the system wasn’t looking at these “locked” guys and now they pile in on top without recourse? That’s part of the problem I see.
09-26-2019, 06:28 PM
#244
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
So if they don’t rerun the bid, couldn’t folks junior to them be affected if they bid a plane at seniority XX% and the system wasn’t looking at these “locked” guys and now they pile in on top without recourse? That’s part of the problem I see.
09-28-2019, 09:30 AM
#248
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Color me confused. Here’s my situation. M88B, was awarded SLC 73NB on the MOAB. It gets cancelled. I have no seat lock. Ok fine, I can AE now.
SLC 73NB vacancies are posted, yay! I bid for SLC 73NB. I don’t get it. 10 guys junior to me get reinstated? Now I have a seat lock again. Huh?
Isn’t having my SLC 73NB cancelled tantamount to an MD from the category?
WTF? I knew I was going to spend at least a year on the 88 going into this, but the inability to get off it while junior guys are getting into bases I want is becoming extremely annoying. There’s doing my time, and there’s getting jerked around.
SLC 73NB vacancies are posted, yay! I bid for SLC 73NB. I don’t get it. 10 guys junior to me get reinstated? Now I have a seat lock again. Huh?
Isn’t having my SLC 73NB cancelled tantamount to an MD from the category?
WTF? I knew I was going to spend at least a year on the 88 going into this, but the inability to get off it while junior guys are getting into bases I want is becoming extremely annoying. There’s doing my time, and there’s getting jerked around.
09-28-2019, 10:05 AM
#249
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Originally Posted by PNWProdigal
Color me confused. Here’s my situation. M88B, was awarded SLC 73NB on the MOAB. It gets cancelled. I have no seat lock. Ok fine, I can AE now.
SLC 73NB vacancies are posted, yay! I bid for SLC 73NB. I don’t get it. 10 guys junior to me get reinstated? Now I have a seat lock again. Huh?
Isn’t having my SLC 73NB cancelled tantamount to an MD from the category?
WTF? I knew I was going to spend at least a year on the 88 going into this, but the inability to get off it while junior guys are getting into bases I want is becoming extremely annoying. There’s doing my time, and there’s getting jerked around.
SLC 73NB vacancies are posted, yay! I bid for SLC 73NB. I don’t get it. 10 guys junior to me get reinstated? Now I have a seat lock again. Huh?
Isn’t having my SLC 73NB cancelled tantamount to an MD from the category?
WTF? I knew I was going to spend at least a year on the 88 going into this, but the inability to get off it while junior guys are getting into bases I want is becoming extremely annoying. There’s doing my time, and there’s getting jerked around.
09-28-2019, 11:45 AM
#250
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Originally Posted by tunes
i get your frustration, but your MD was canceled and reinstatements take priority over an AE.
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