September AE
09-28-2019 | 11:56 AM
#251
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From: NBCNEWB
That’s what this whole snafu has been about, the system putting the seat locks back on. I would email CR about it, they should take it off. Also let Contract Admin know.
09-29-2019 | 04:46 AM
#252
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From: 7ERA
Agreed, but I don't think that changes anything in this case. It sounds like PNWProdigal had an AE rescinded. While there should be no seat lock, that also does not qualify you for reinstatement rights. He/she didn't get SLC73N B because all of the slots were taken by reinstatements and rightly so under the PWA. A complete bummer for someone trying to get to SLC for sure.
09-29-2019 | 07:21 AM
#253
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They should remove your seat lock. IF what Trip7 said is true about the Nov/Dec AE it’s going to create a ton of movement and you should easily be able to get out west.
09-29-2019 | 08:25 AM
#254
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From: NBCNEWB
Agreed, but I don't think that changes anything in this case. It sounds like PNWProdigal had an AE rescinded. While there should be no seat lock, that also does not qualify you for reinstatement rights. He/she didn't get SLC73N B because all of the slots were taken by reinstatements and rightly so under the PWA. A complete bummer for someone trying to get to SLC for sure.
09-29-2019 | 02:10 PM
#255
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I get that, and I agree. I think/thought his gripe is/was that his seat lock was subsequently restored. That's what Icrew did for me, before the award it showed no seat lock and after the {mis]award it showed a seat lock, incorrectly. He couldn't hold SLC73NB but he also shouldn't have a seat lock, and he does...at least that's my understanding.
I understand that what has happened is fully in line with the contract. However, I can hold SLC 73N B. I would not have been subject to the May displacement.
Because they displaced and then added in back to back AEs, my seniority doesn’t mean anything because junior guys fall under reinstatement rules now.
Legal yes, still some shady ****.
Here’s to Nov/Dec I guess.
09-29-2019 | 03:40 PM
#256
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Correct. My gripe is two fold. Seat lock is back (I’ve emailed CR) and because they displaced on the May AE then added on the September AE, their poor planning is circumventing my seniority.
I understand that what has happened is fully in line with the contract. However, I can hold SLC 73N B. I would not have been subject to the May displacement.
Because they displaced and then added in back to back AEs, my seniority doesn’t mean anything because junior guys fall under reinstatement rules now.
Legal yes, still some shady ****.
Here’s to Nov/Dec I guess.
I understand that what has happened is fully in line with the contract. However, I can hold SLC 73N B. I would not have been subject to the May displacement.
Because they displaced and then added in back to back AEs, my seniority doesn’t mean anything because junior guys fall under reinstatement rules now.
Legal yes, still some shady ****.
Here’s to Nov/Dec I guess.
09-30-2019 | 04:58 AM
#258
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From: Fastest Hunk of Junk in the Galaxy
Keep a list of contractual provisions that get under your skin and when your reps are at the crew room answering questions, go in and talk to them about those provisions or just email/phone them. No guarantee they'll get fixed but it's the best path to a possible change.
10-06-2019 | 11:52 AM
#260
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It's a totally manual process, and it usually takes about 2-4 weeks depending on the complexity of the bid / number of training slots needed. With the seat lock goof-up of the -88 bidders and subsequent re-attack delay, I wouldn't expect it early in that timeframe.
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