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#41
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I had them as students in the early '60's, in a PanAm program. They for the most part, have always been pro-American. I think a few ran away with a Cherokee maiden or two.
#43
Sounds like Bernie Sanders talking points. Let me ask. Does "reinvigorated" and "buoyed" also mean casting off the ridiculous notion that new high school graduates should shun true skilled professions like machinist, mechanic, electrician, welder, plumber, etc, and should instead invest years of their life (and six figures of debt) to pursue a worthless degree in sociology and communications?
I don't think the "rich people are evil" crowd is preaching that...though they should.
I don't think the "rich people are evil" crowd is preaching that...though they should.
#44
Hold on. Why are we blaming colleges for merely offering a service. Colleges haven't been cutting state budgets which help offset the cost of tuition. Colleges aren't sitting in boardrooms demanding their most competitive hires have bachelor or masters degree. Colleges aren't sitting at kitchen tables telling kids they need to attend. There are certainly problems at University in this country (like making millions off the backs of "student-athletes" for virtually nothing), but most problems are the result of bad policy and capitalism.
#45
Colleges are in the business of making money, just like corporations, hospitals and religions. They’ve seen unlimited funding through the government-subsidized student loan industry and have responded like any profit-seeking entity with no downward pressure on costs: They’ve raised their prices. And in doing so hired a bloated level of “administrators” that didn’t even exist 30 years ago (along with spas and climbing walls.)
#46
People complaining about degradation of the quality of life in this country need to point fingers at what really caused it and the notion that people at the top are "hoarding the wealth" (which is not possible anyway given wealth is created and not finite) is not the reason. People are making less because someone decided we should allow jobs to go all around the world to save money and at the same time continually let in millions of low skilled, low educated workers who are willing to do jobs for half of what the natives were doing them for. I hear people saying "illegals do the jobs natives don't want to do". Well why don't they want to do them? Simple, the pay is crap and you can raise the minimum wage all day long but that's not gonna matter when farmer Joe hires day laborers who are paid scraps under the table. It's that way in pretty much in every industry to some degree.
Colleges are in the business of making money, just like corporations, hospitals and religions. They’ve seen unlimited funding through the government-subsidized student loan industry and have responded like any profit-seeking entity with no downward pressure on costs: They’ve raised their prices. And in doing so hired a bloated level of “administrators” that didn’t even exist 30 years ago (along with spas and climbing walls.)
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#47
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The rest of the western world pays way less per health care per citizen and has healthier citizens who live longer. That’s objectively true. A large reason for it is they don’t have a massive insurance industry that has CEOs and shareholders to pay. I have no idea how to realistically fix it, nor does anyone, but what’s comical is claiming our healthcare system is overall “better” than Canada, Norway, Japan, etc. ask anyone from those countries if they’d like to model what we have here.
#48
Colleges are in the business of making money, just like corporations, hospitals and religions. They’ve seen unlimited funding through the government-subsidized student loan industry and have responded like any profit-seeking entity with no downward pressure on costs: They’ve raised their prices. And in doing so hired a bloated level of “administrators” that didn’t even exist 30 years ago (along with spas and climbing walls.)
My niece is looking at colleges right now. My brother in law told me that the “dorms” these days at college are more like condos. Students have amazing amenities in their buildings with cafes and such, instead of a food hall that serves 3 meals a day, at certain times, and if you miss the meal, you’re cooking ramen on your hot plate. The entire student college experience has gotten a LOT more expensive.
#49
Colleges won't be offering the 'services' as you put if they weren't guaranteed to be paid. If banks weren't guaranteed to be paid, they wouldn't loan money for ridiculous degrees that have pathetic ROIs. You are right that parents are to partly to blame, but if colleges got back to legitimate education things would improve.
#50
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The high school I went to still teaches wood/metal shop, FAA and has programs to spend your sophomore-senior year learning trade (off site). The school system in the city I currently live in has a program for high school kids to graduate with an A&P. They have lots of other programs such as automotive repair, carpentry, business, entrepreneurship, etc... The programs are there, it's just whether kids are willing to capitalize on such opportunities. I'm sure some of it is being unsure of what they want to do in life, but I'm betting a lot of it is the stigma of "who" goes to such programs.
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