AE is out on icrew.
10-23-2019, 01:10 PM
#91
Da Hudge
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Strange thing is the union now says we don’t have a TA in that section. They said we did and now we don’t which means we are back to having exactly nothing of importance TA’d after 6 months of accelerated negotiations.
10-23-2019, 01:31 PM
#92
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: A330 First Officer
Posts: 1,465
Originally Posted by sailingfun
That is why I found it odd no one discussed it in the forum. If it’s TA’d this early I would assume we maintained are crew augmentation rules which are much better and far more costly than other airlines. It’s a good thing in a otherwise slow process.
10-24-2019, 09:42 AM
#93
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Strange thing is the union now says we don’t have a TA in that section. They said we did and now we don’t which means we are back to having exactly nothing of importance TA’d after 6 months of accelerated negotiations.
The concession stand is closed. Funny thing is, they can't afford to bribe us for scope and QOL concessions they've been trained to want since B-School. Its not like we're getting 30% raises every 3 years. That would put rates at 750/hr in 15 years...for a narrowbody FO.
And they won't even come remotely close to that anyway, even with deep QOL shredding, job killing concessions. WRT the augmentation issue, if its not TA'd then why? Its not like we're demanding every pilot be a captain. So clearly they want concessions over current book. That makes their position un-TA-able.
No deal is better than a bad deal.
10-24-2019, 03:27 PM
#94
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,418
Originally Posted by gloopy
And that's our fault or the company's fault for demanding "what are you going to give up for that?" as well as inserting their pet concessions along the way?
The concession stand is closed. Funny thing is, they can't afford to bribe us for scope and QOL concessions they've been trained to want since B-School. Its not like we're getting 30% raises every 3 years. That would put rates at 750/hr in 15 years...for a narrowbody FO.
And they won't even come remotely close to that anyway, even with deep QOL shredding, job killing concessions. WRT the augmentation issue, if its not TA'd then why? Its not like we're demanding every pilot be a captain. So clearly they want concessions over current book. That makes their position un-TA-able.
No deal is better than a bad deal.
The concession stand is closed. Funny thing is, they can't afford to bribe us for scope and QOL concessions they've been trained to want since B-School. Its not like we're getting 30% raises every 3 years. That would put rates at 750/hr in 15 years...for a narrowbody FO.
And they won't even come remotely close to that anyway, even with deep QOL shredding, job killing concessions. WRT the augmentation issue, if its not TA'd then why? Its not like we're demanding every pilot be a captain. So clearly they want concessions over current book. That makes their position un-TA-able.
No deal is better than a bad deal.
11-12-2019, 04:38 AM
#95
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Position: Not an RJ driver anymore
Posts: 1,033
Originally Posted by bohicagain
Yup! I'll pay up.
I'll double match your donation.
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