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Old 09-26-2019 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
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In addition to those 330s and 350s, how many other deliveries are scheduled in 2020?

And 2021?

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The link I had is not working. Here is what I posted before. These numbers may change again soon. Perhaps another type!

This is the updated schedule as of 15 Aug. We will now have 23 A330-900 aircraft on the property by the end of the 2nd quarter 2022 plus two more A350’s. I was mistaken that the two new incremental aircraft were A330-300’s from WOW. They are new A330-900’s from a lessor. We get 7 next year vice 4 planned.
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Old 09-26-2019 | 05:47 AM
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Not really a fair comparison when you consider that the United States has approximately four times the population spread over approximately 15 times the land area vs the Netherlands and France combined.
The whole open skies agreement isn’t fair. You're making my point for me. We give them access to our country, and get access to theirs. We give more than 4x what we get. It becomes slightly more fair because I believe the open skies agreement covers the entire EU, but a joint venture agreement with KLM/AF, gives them way more than we get right out of the box. That’s why the production balance is so critical.

And to the poster who said they’d rather ten flights to AMS than serving 8 other cities, if you’re saying 10>8 so it’s better, I’ll buy that. But when you find yourself laying over in Paris, 3-4 times a week, every week, and enduring that long @$$ bus ride every morning on arrival, you’ve officially taken all the fun out of international flying.

AMS is much better than CDG or LHR in my opinion, and if that’s how Delta can make the most money, I’m not complaining, but the variety of destinations made International flying a lot of fun not too long ago. If we can hold on to some of the variety, while focusing on our JV partner hubs, I’d be ok with that.
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Old 09-26-2019 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The link I had is not working. Here is what I posted before. These numbers may change again soon. Perhaps another type!

This is the updated schedule as of 15 Aug. We will now have 23 A330-900 aircraft on the property by the end of the 2nd quarter 2022 plus two more A350’s. I was mistaken that the two new incremental aircraft were A330-300’s from WOW. They are new A330-900’s from a lessor. We get 7 next year vice 4 planned.
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And 20 A 220 30 A321 in 2020?
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Old 09-26-2019 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
The whole open skies agreement isn’t fair. You're making my point for me. We give them access to our country, and get access to theirs. We give more than 4x what we get. It becomes slightly more fair because I believe the open skies agreement covers the entire EU, but a joint venture agreement with KLM/AF, gives them way more than we get right out of the box. That’s why the production balance is so critical.



And to the poster who said they’d rather ten flights to AMS than serving 8 other cities, if you’re saying 10>8 so it’s better, I’ll buy that. But when you find yourself laying over in Paris, 3-4 times a week, every week, and enduring that long @$$ bus ride every morning on arrival, you’ve officially taken all the fun out of international flying.



AMS is much better than CDG or LHR in my opinion, and if that’s how Delta can make the most money, I’m not complaining, but the variety of destinations made International flying a lot of fun not too long ago. If we can hold on to some of the variety, while focusing on our JV partner hubs, I’d be ok with that.
You make a good point about variety. I think alot of the angst from the fall of NRT is due to the loss of significant variety. That inter Asia flying looked incredibly fun. Going forward it looks like the 330 once you gain decent seniority will offer the most variety.

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Old 09-26-2019 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
And to the poster who said they’d rather ten flights to AMS than serving 8 other cities, if you’re saying 10>8 so it’s better, I’ll buy that. But when you find yourself laying over in Paris, 3-4 times a week, every week, and enduring that long @$$ bus ride every morning on arrival, you’ve officially taken all the fun out of international flying.
The real fun of international flying is NOT going to work.

Originally Posted by Big E 757
AMS is much better than CDG or LHR in my opinion, and if that’s how Delta can make the most money, I’m not complaining, but the variety of destinations made International flying a lot of fun not too long ago. If we can hold on to some of the variety, while focusing on our JV partner hubs, I’d be ok with that.

But seriously, agreed on all parts. I'd love some more variety, even just what we had a few years ago would be better than now. I specifically avoid CDG due to the bus ride and I've really got nothing for Paris anymore. AMS is a great airport, city and layover...if I were stuck with just one of our current layovers, it would be there. Here's hoping for profitable expansion into more locations.
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Old 09-26-2019 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Looks like in 2020 we have a net gain of 100 pilots by June 1st for summer flying.

Do we still have 88 different categories? This would be a net gain of 1.4 pilots per category?

How many additional aircraft by June 2020?
UAL, AA and SWA should have a combined fleet of nearly 100 737 MAX by June 2020. We could pretend that the grounding wasn't a factor this summer and hire to 2019 demand or we can factor the 737 MAX return to flying and hire accordingly. What would you do if you were in charge of hiring?
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Old 09-26-2019 | 01:13 PM
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I guess we're going with more A350s...
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Old 09-26-2019 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
I guess we're going with more A350s...
Looks that way. Say goodbye to the 777
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Old 09-26-2019 | 01:17 PM
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So much for the rumors the company was disappointed with the 350.
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Old 09-26-2019 | 01:27 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-latam-airlines-m-a-delta-air/delta-to-buy-20-of-latam-for-1-9-billion-in-regional-shake-up-idUSKBN1WB2UZ
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