gzsg

They can have one early next year if they choose.

DWC CAP10 USAF

That doesn’t help them get people into training now so they can be ready to fly summer 2020 Ops.

caddis

Look for it around the 7th. BS has put out some info saying 350, 330, 320, and 737 spots. Also talking some 717s stuff. Mentions first week of November.

Mudhendrvr

Where was this posted? Cant find it on skynet or deltanet

saturn

They can essentially put pilots in longer locks if they play the 12mo AE correctly. When was the 2018 big AE? Subtract 1-2 months, and that'll probably be the big 2020 AE. As a lot of the guys who are about to come off seatlocks from 2018 approach 24 months...bam a big AE a month or two prior. 3 year seat lock!

sailingfun

I keep seeing that posted here but I can tell you that the company does not even look at it. The reason is that for every pilot who has a lock extended by a 12 month bid another pilot has his lock shortened. Unlike most airlines freezes or locks at Delta start as of the date of the award. If you convert a year later your effective lock is 12 months. In addition there are always other shorter bids. We will have had 5 bids this year.

RockyBoy

The MOAB bids work great for them when they are closing a large category. The last 2 helped them move the 88 flying to ATL and start to bring that category down as well as move the 717 out of LAX. If they don’t have any large displacements then frequent smaller bids every 3 months work better. At least that’s what I was told.

RockyBoy

I agree. I start 320A training in 2 weeks. My lock started 8 months ago. I could basically fly the line for 12 months then bid off if I wanted.

Dorfman

Respectfully Sailing you are not correct. They do look at it. I was at a function where a Crew Resources person was in attendance. When asked if having the 365 AEs at less then 12 months was accidental the answer was no.

You are also not correct that your lock is effectively 12 months in your example if they keep less than 12 month intervals on AE MOAB bids. Here is an example:

AE in June, you’re a jr pilot and convert 10 months later. AE next is in May you are still frozen at 11 months. The following year AE is April, you are 22 months into your freeze and can’t bid. Then finally an AE in March, you are 33 months in your seat before you can bid. Even as a jr, last to convert pilot, you have been in your seat 23 months before you can bid. Most likely spend a few more months in the seat before training.

They run into a problem when the interval of less than 12 months backs them up to have to release two big bids in same calendar year. They can’t do another 365 bid.

Now if the go to smaller AEs more often this will lessen the impact.

rambodog

So did this happen or just made up BS? Multiple people have asked for the story but no one seems to be able to produce it.