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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2954909)
Sounds like a self created crisis to present to the NMB.
Company: We can't possibly increase vacation availability and credit because our hiring is at full capacity and we have optimized our summer therefore DALPA's QOL items are complete over reach and unobtainable. This. 4th floor guys told me that they were begging for hiring, and it was purposely being delayed to prop up profits (read stock price). How convenient that no matter what we ask for now in manning concessions the company can say that there is no way for them to grant them because they will never be able to catch up on hiring and training to agree to a manning concession (read QOL for pilots). |
Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
(Post 2954951)
Everyone keeps talking about using IVD's this summer and IVD's only have to have coverage the same as an APD, except for the exception dates in the PWA, so I wonder how long it will take the company to come to the union for relief from this contractual right when the wheels fall off the wagon this summer.
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Originally Posted by Go Cards go
(Post 2955495)
For clarification, you can put an IVD on a trip to drop it and will be paid the value of the vacation day(s) you use to drop the trip. You will not get trip value. APDs are not paid. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I think he meant the Full Service Bank. You can pay yourself any amount out of your bank in any month in which you have not been awarded a green slip. If you have been awarded a green slip you can only pay yourself 5:00 in that bid period. |
Originally Posted by go cards go
(Post 2955495)
for clarification, you can put an ivd on a trip to drop it and will be paid the value of the vacation day(s) you use to drop the trip. You will not get trip value. Apds are not paid. Correct me if i’m wrong.
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2955571)
pwa 23.i.18.
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Originally Posted by Go Cards go
(Post 2955633)
That’s interesting. I didn’t know you could request to be paid the whole rotation value from your vacation bank. 23.I.11.f and 7.I.3 seem to contradict that and I honestly don’t understand how they all mesh.
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2955636)
There is no conflict, the normal process is 23.I.11.f. The 23.I.18 recovery of pay and credit is at the request of the pilot. This will leave your vacation bank short when the impacted vacation is later taken.
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Originally Posted by Go Cards go
(Post 2955639)
Ok. I wasn’t sure how that would actually work in practice. Seems like it could hurt you later for bidding. You could end up with six vacation days blocked on your calendar (which you can’t bid a trip over) with a total credit remaining of say 5:15 (used one IVD to drop a 21:00 trip).
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Originally Posted by Go Cards go
(Post 2955495)
For clarification, you can put an IVD on a trip to drop it and will be paid the value of the vacation day(s) you use to drop the trip. You will not get trip value. APDs are not paid. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
(Post 2955513)
I think he meant the Full Service Bank. You can pay yourself any amount out of your bank in any month in which you have not been awarded a green slip. If you have been awarded a green slip you can only pay yourself 5:00 in that bid period.
23.I.18. explains what you can use vacation bank for. |
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