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Bergman 12-01-2019 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 2932225)
I still agree with your premise. I haven’t seen the “widebody growth” reflected in these latest AEs. I’m hoping the next few change my mind....

They’ve only been staffing for next summer. The March AE had hundreds of WB positions to set up for summer 2020. From what BS has said, sounds like a spring 2020 AE will do the same for 2021.

80ktsClamp 12-01-2019 11:37 AM

The NEO delays are actually a good thing in keeping them from posting a 12 month bid. They can’t really plan around them as they are so fluid.

sailingfun 12-01-2019 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by MJP27 (Post 2932225)
I still agree with your premise. I haven’t seen the “widebody growth” reflected in these latest AEs. I’m hoping the next few change my mind....

The company has awarded well over 400 CA positions this calendar year on 767-400 or larger equipment. That includes bypasses. Add in the 7ER and that number almost doubles.

tunes 12-01-2019 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2932247)
The company has awarded well over 400 CA positions this calendar year on 767-400 or larger equipment. That includes bypasses. Add in the 7ER and that number almost doubles.



How about without bypasses?


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sailingfun 12-01-2019 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2932307)
How about without bypasses?


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Guessing about 330 to 350.

80ktsClamp 12-01-2019 04:33 PM

Weren't there 65 bypasses on just this last bid?

sailingfun 12-01-2019 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2932311)
Weren't there 65 bypasses on just this last bid?

Prior bids had far fewer. I figured about 90 total. It’s a guess however. To busy planning my upcoming vacation to count.

FangsF15 12-01-2019 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2932247)
The company has awarded well over 400 CA positions this calendar year on 767-400 or larger equipment. That includes bypasses. Add in the 7ER and that number almost doubles.

Bypasses are completely irrelevant for this discussion. There have been 109 of those since March, so take 25% off the top at least.

According to Curly's site, there have been 519 new A's across all equipment in the same time frame, the vast majority of which have been NB. I went and counted the WB A's this Calendar Year.: 36 From Jan, 239 From March, and 27 From Nov, for a total of 302. However, a good portion of those were already WB A's, just moving base or equipment...

Big E 757 12-01-2019 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 2932389)
Bypasses are completely irrelevant for this discussion. There have been 109 of those since March, so take 25% off the top at least.

According to Curly's site, there have been 519 new A's across all equipment in the same time frame, the vast majority of which have been NB. I went and counted the WB A's this Calendar Year.: 36 From Jan, 239 From March, and 27 From Nov, for a total of 302. However, a good portion of those were already WB A's, just moving base or equipment...

I have a feeling he included backfills. Which doesn’t account for retirements or new positions.

FangsF15 12-01-2019 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 2932396)
I have a feeling he included backfills. Which doesn’t account for retirements or new positions.

The 302 was my manual count. But you are exactly right in that backfills and retirements mask the true number, which will be somewhat lower.


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