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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy
(Post 2948232)
FWIW a 330 LCA on jumpseat yesterday said roughly 70 widebody A’s on the next AE and that the LATAM 350s would likely be converted to 330neos (probably not a surprise to anybody).
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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy
(Post 2948232)
FWIW a 330 LCA on jumpseat yesterday said roughly 70 widebody A’s on the next AE and that the LATAM 350s would likely be converted to 330neos (probably not a surprise to anybody).
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Originally Posted by clear4approach
(Post 2948538)
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 2948312)
generally, LCA rumors tend to be wrong.
jmho, ymmv, dyodd |
The pessimist in me thinks the info is disinformation or distraction at best. But my glass is always half empty.
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Does anyone have any information about bypasses? Not the cardiac kind, but the I don't have to go to training and get paid the higher rate kind.
What do you have to do to get a bypass? I want one, I just don't know how to get it if I don't want to go to training. How close to the flame can I get without singeing the wings? |
Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 2949234)
Does anyone have any information about bypasses? Not the cardiac kind, but the I don't have to go to training and get paid the higher rate kind.
What do you have to do to get a bypass? I want one, I just don't know how to get it if I don't want to go to training. How close to the flame can I get without singeing the wings? Contractually, if they bypass a pilot they have to bypass any other pilots who asked for bypass and are due to retire earlier than them. Per the e-mail, the company ALSO has its own policy that if it bypasses you they will also bypass any pilots senior to you who also asked for a bypass. So a single bypass can get really complicated depending on who asked for a bypass, so while at 6 months left you may think you are a shoe in for a bypass, if there are 3 pilots senior to you with 5 years left who checked the bypass box then you won't get bypassed. Bypasses can theoretically go out to 5 years but the company has never been inclined to go that far. So it's a combination of cost to train you vs bypass others, which other pilots actually asked for a bypass, simulator availability and your time available. The A350 right now is so simulator constrained they are more likely to bypass than say a 330 or 777 bid. I think they went out to 2 years on this last AE for the 350 but who knows about the next one. Over a year on anything else and it's a real gamble (and it is still a gamble with different odds for the 350). Basically, no matter when you bid for it, you could still be forced to train, so there is never a guarantee you'll get the extra pay without having to put in the work. If you absolutely don't want to train, don't bid. If you are willing to accept a chance of training then it's a game to play with odds increasing of a bypass every month you are under 2 years left with chances of a bypass near zero at more than 2 years. And all it takes is for a relatively senior pilot with a lot of years left checking the bypass box to make most everyone else train. |
Originally Posted by Baradium
(Post 2949264)
There was a good e-mail put out by ALPA a while ago but the short story is there is absolutely no guarantee.
Contractually, if they bypass a pilot they have to bypass any other pilots who asked for bypass and are due to retire earlier than them. Per the e-mail, the company ALSO has its own policy that if it bypasses you they will also bypass any pilots senior to you who also asked for a bypass. So a single bypass can get really complicated depending on who asked for a bypass, so while at 6 months left you may think you are a shoe in for a bypass, if there are 3 pilots senior to you with 5 years left who checked the bypass box then you won't get bypassed. Bypasses can theoretically go out to 5 years but the company has never been inclined to go that far. So it's a combination of cost to train you vs bypass others, which other pilots actually asked for a bypass, simulator availability and your time available. The A350 right now is so simulator constrained they are more likely to bypass than say a 330 or 777 bid. I think they went out to 2 years on this last AE for the 350 but who knows about the next one. Over a year on anything else and it's a real gamble (and it is still a gamble with different odds for the 350). Basically, no matter when you bid for it, you could still be forced to train, so there is never a guarantee you'll get the extra pay without having to put in the work. If you absolutely don't want to train, don't bid. If you are willing to accept a chance of training then it's a game to play with odds increasing of a bypass every month you are under 2 years left with chances of a bypass near zero at more than 2 years. And all it takes is for a relatively senior pilot with a lot of years left checking the bypass box to make most everyone else train. |
All the bypasses I saw were a year or less to go. If you have more than a year expect to train.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2949286)
All the bypasses I saw were a year or less to go. If you have more than a year expect to train.
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