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orvil 01-02-2020 06:57 AM

The record setting one that I saw was a 320A going to 350A.

He had around four years left. He's on the 320 and getting multiple GS at 350 pay. He was surprised he was bypassed and was prepared to go to training. I laugh every time I see him get a GS. His 3 and 4 day GS around the holiday were epic.

I'm senior to him, but a little bit younger. I'm still inside the 5 year window, but not near the 2 year window. I've read the contract about this. It's really tempting.

It was pointed out to me that if I didn't get the bypass, I could always bust training and go back to my original equipment. I'm not quite that Machiavellian.

weekendflyer 01-04-2020 07:25 PM

Any more info on jan ae date?

tennisguru 01-05-2020 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by weekendflyer (Post 2951412)
Any more info on jan ae date?

Sometime in January :D

m3113n1a1 01-05-2020 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2951490)
Sometime in January :D

I'm gonna go with February...

DWC CAP10 USAF 01-05-2020 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by weekendflyer (Post 2951412)
Any more info on jan ae date?


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2951490)
Sometime in January :D


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2951493)
I'm gonna go with February...

Feb 30th is what I'm hearing.

crewdawg 01-05-2020 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2951562)
Feb 30th is what I'm hearing.

New system...an AE every 29FEB.

gloopy 01-05-2020 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2951565)
New system...an AE every 29FEB.

With a 4 year conversion window...

Hillbilly 01-06-2020 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2949392)
It's not a contractual requirement as far as I can tell. The company made the conscious decision that it isn't fair to the senior pilot that requested pilot to bypass a pilot junior to them if the senior pilot requested it.

The company is permitted to go above and beyond the contract if they desire, although it still confuses me that they do in this case. I will add though that at this point it'd probably be considered status quo.

Something is confusing me with this (not unusual). Just taking a quick glance at the award, the second 350 pilot who was not bypassed, but senior to a whole bunch who were bypassed, is within 5 years of retirement. Are you saying that he did not check the box for bypass and if he had he would have gotten it?

He was not alone. There were several that fall into that category. They all retire after the youngest pilot who did get a bypass though which makes sense per the PWA but not with this non-contractual company policy that is being referred to.

Baradium 01-06-2020 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 2952534)
Something is confusing me with this (not unusual). Just taking a quick glance at the award, the second 350 pilot who was not bypassed, but senior to a whole bunch who were bypassed, is within 5 years of retirement. Are you saying that he did not check the box for bypass and if he had he would have gotten it?

He was not alone. There were several that fall into that category. They all retire after the youngest pilot who did get a bypass though which makes sense per the PWA but not with this non-contractual company policy that is being referred to.

Apparently there is a pilot with almost 5 years left on one of the other AEs who DID get bypassed for this reason, but I haven't verified that myself.

And yes, he either would have gotten bypassed or the other guys who got it would not have by my understanding. In this case he probably would have gotten it. Since we can't see whether someone ASKED to get bypassed or not it's really hard to verify by the award though. With that amount of time left the chances of bypass drop considerably so I would expect most who have that amount left actually intend to fly the new equipment and don't automatically check the bypass box.

Trip7 01-10-2020 01:05 PM

Jan 17th is the rumored date. Mega AE due to no March AE. SEA 220 and a new 350 base to open on a later bid this year

Exciting times

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