So advocating for something that is correct is bad?

Plus managers do such a minuscule and insignificant percentage of the flying that it really has no impact on the line pilots in that category. But I can totally see why when an out of seniority manager starts to throw around their "unearned" title that it bothers people. At my previous company we had a few managers who refused to fly as captains until their seniority could hold it and they earned a ton of respect for doing so.

while at the regionals he managed to violate P-56 not once.... but twice, or so I’m told. 😬

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The guy flying as a captain doesn’t bug me at all. However, having someone not on our Seniority List flying one of our jets does bug me.

But we’ve already established that you don’t care about those pesky scope violations...


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Um this is just rumor control and pilots hating on a management type or something that is provable and actually happened?

There's no violation to our contract if someone is getting bought off their trip. Everyone is just being emotional about nothing.

Think hes referring to the 350 delivery debacle.

Spot On.

"It is the unemotional, reserved, calm, detached warrior who wins, not the hothead seeking vengeance and not the ambitious seeker of fortune."

-Sun Tzu, Art of War



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​​​​​​Did not happen. He never flew at Endeavor. However, he did bust P56 once at his first carrier as a line pilot. I think it was Mesa as a B1900 driver.

Sorry. I’m usually good at sarcasm but there is so much of it on here it’s hard to tell sometimes.

Too funny. Since pretty much anyone that’s read almost anything you’ve posted would put you in the ambitious seeker of a management fortune category. Also doubt you’ve ever been a warrior. Love when people liken civilian activities, like contract negotiations, to going to war.

Speaking specifically about the 320, they max out at about 6 hours. Not great compared to the efficiency of the 73 island turns. I know a lot of senior guys loved doing those. 2 5 day blocks of island turns and they were done for the month.

I was referring to a certain airbus delivery flown by pilots that were not on our seniority list.


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On word on if alpa has received the AE yet?

Gotcha. My mistake!

They just posted to skynet that it could be a few more days.

No surprise. That's what happened last time too. Looks like Friday EOB

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It's been EOB Friday since the day the AE posted. The results are typically ready on Wed, but always get sent back for review to save an extra $50.

I think you're spot on because the exact scenario happened last time, BS posts results ready on Tue or most likely Wed, then a Flight Ops representative posts Wed it might be a couple more days.

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Another possibility is BS saying “I think we’ve got it guys! I’ll send it over to ALPA. Damnit, the computer froze again. Let me try...nope blue screen of death. Did anyone save it by chance? No? Ughhhh Send a message on workplace saying it will be a few days.”

Maybe less likely than saving a minuscule amount of money, but never count out Delta IT!

Or maybe the last set of eyes to approve it is on vacation.

I am a new hire starting class soon so I dont have the ability to fact check this myself. I was told by a friend that when a new category in a base opens, anyone can bid it regardless of seat lock. For example: The proposed BOS320 base opens in the next AE, I can bid and be awarded this if my seniority can hold it although my new hire assignment was NYC717 and a year hasn't passed? Doesn't sound right to me but what do I know?! Thanks for the responses.

That is correct. When a new catagory opens, all seat locks are disregarded for bidding that catagory, or a couple bids, depending on timing. I can’t remember if your current seat lock is added to the new seat lock or not.

Your friend is correct.

Our guys having it in their hands and going through it to make sure it follows our rules is a 1000 times more important than it coming out a couple days early.

​​​​​It is not. If you require a full IQ you will only incur a new 24 month seat freeze which starts on the date of the AE award.

except that's not what's happening here....

CX I'm a NYC 7ERB too. A bit more senior than you but I'm doing the same. Bid in for NYC 220A. I came in to NYC 7ERB at ~70%. Been moving backwards ever since. Little to no new hire fills and the fact as you mentioned lots of folks in the junior side have departed for ATL, DTW and LAX on the 7ER.

I got beat up over last summer. All domestic. Lots of clock flipping back side/upside down all over the time spectrum trips I couldn't drop or swap due to coverage. So figured if I'm gonna get beat up again, might as well make some $$$ doing it. Plus I am looking forward to the CA upgrade. I think I'm ready and would be stoked if I got it. If I don't, so be it. The 757 ain't a bad office to be stuck in for another summer. I did 88s for a few years so I know what its like to sweat.

Good luck to you.

Thanks. I came in at 95 or so due to a delay in training, wife had emergency surgery a week after indoc, so I took forever to complete OE.

Got to about 88, just due to new hires under me, then the slide back began. Currently 97-98% depending on how you round.

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