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m3113n1a1

01-29-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 2966666)

It was the advocacy that mattered.

So advocating for something that is correct is bad?

RJ4LIFE

01-29-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2966655)

Why can't you guys get over him being a captain? It's literally just a dumb title. Seniority list pilots get bought off their trips per the contract whenever these guys fly. Someone gets PAID to not fly.

Sounds like the only problem is people's fragile egos.

Plus managers do such a minuscule and insignificant percentage of the flying that it really has no impact on the line pilots in that category. But I can totally see why when an out of seniority manager starts to throw around their "unearned" title that it bothers people. At my previous company we had a few managers who refused to fly as captains until their seniority could hold it and they earned a ton of respect for doing so.

asacimesp

01-29-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2966661)

So what is the joke? I think more than a few of us don’t know or get it?

while at the regionals he managed to violate P-56 not once.... but twice, or so I’m told. 😬

NavyFlyer

01-29-2020 07:32 AM

Jan. AE

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Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2966664)

Agree 100%. It doesn't bother me one bit. As long as whoever can hold the trip seniority wise is getting paid they can have John Travolta or whoever fly it

The guy flying as a captain doesn’t bug me at all. However, having someone not on our Seniority List flying one of our jets does bug me.

But we’ve already established that you don’t care about those pesky scope violations...

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DALMD88FO

01-29-2020 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by asacimesp (Post 2966675)

while at Endeavor he managed to violate P-56 not once.... but twice, or so I’m told. 😬

Um this is just rumor control and pilots hating on a management type or something that is provable and actually happened?

m3113n1a1

01-29-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NavyFlyer (Post 2966680)

There's no violation to our contract if someone is getting bought off their trip. Everyone is just being emotional about nothing.

Chakerik

01-29-2020 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2966685)

There's no violation to our contract if someone is getting bought off their trip. Everyone is just being emotional about nothing.

Think hes referring to the 350 delivery debacle.

Trip7

01-29-2020 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2966685)

There's no violation to our contract if someone is getting bought off their trip. Everyone is just being emotional about nothing.

Spot On.

"It is the unemotional, reserved, calm, detached warrior who wins, not the hothead seeking vengeance and not the ambitious seeker of fortune."

-Sun Tzu, Art of War

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wiggy15

01-29-2020 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2966684)

Um this is just rumor control and pilots hating on a management type or something that is provable and actually happened?

Did not happen. He never flew at Endeavor. However, he did bust P56 once at his first carrier as a line pilot. I think it was Mesa as a B1900 driver.

ERflyer

01-29-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2966645)

It was a joke. See "P-56"

Sorry. I’m usually good at sarcasm but there is so much of it on here it’s hard to tell sometimes.

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