So am I to understand when I am at a Delta townhall meeting I need a PowerPoint presentation to ask a question a thus receive a valid answer? I hope my sarcasm filter is malfunctioning. If not, this is a horrible precedent to set. We are treated like constituents of a congressional district, told just enough to ensure electability. Instead of mutual members in a massive ship where all ideas can benefit all. Good leaders listen and interact, they don’t require a 10 point plan. That’s their job to formulate after absorbing my ideas.

Anyone curious what personality types aspire to be 4th floor...exhibit A.

Don't know the details on this but this brings up some interesting questions. I'm pretty sure the 3 NYC airports are the most "avoided" airports known to PBS and as a RES I can confirm that it's a close race between Chicago and NYC for the most pilots who always seem to come down with optical anal disorder whenever I'm on call (guys always seem to trooper through those 34 hour CHOs though...). So if they made this change, the guys who are bypassing seniority to commute to NYC will now just pawn off their garbage on the surrounding bases basically giving them a double bump in seniority. Take this a step even further, if NYC becomes commutable at the expense of a significantly larger portion of NYC layovers in other bases, will NYC remain the mecca of junior opportunity that it is right now? Sure, it will still be junior due to all the other reasons everybody knows about -- but as an ATL guy I'd consider commuting up there if I knew I'd be able to reliably fly double commutable trips whereas in the current state it's not even on the RADAR, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

This discussion is not about asking questions. It's about arguing a significant change in crew basing to the Head of Crew Resources.

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I'm torn on this one. On the one hand at least Flight Ops seemed concerned when guys with 3 months at the company were awarded NYC 88a. On the other hand they don't seem to mind that we've got a pretty junior NYC 7era doing his best to eff up the company from the 4th floor AND he requires a babysitter whenever he decides to go fly.

In December there were 12 “commutable” trips on the 320 in NYC. Not 12%, but 12 actual trips. When I got the the 320 a couple years ago my seniority could hold 100% commutable. Now I'm just hoping for one end or the other. Also, if you read the Crew Resource news letter they have shifted their language from measuring fully commutable to front end or back end commutability. We no longer have 5 day trips with late sign in and early release. Instead for February we have some ridiculous amount of turns in NYC. And the 320 senior crew planner never writes a single comment in the Crew Resources news letter. All this seems to coincide with the sodomizer coming on line. The -88 was long gone before it happened so can’t use that excuse.

Seems every base wants more 1,2,3 day trips except nyc. There the desire is 5 or 4 day trips. Yet which base has the most short trips? I know I keep stirring the pot. They could post the AE results to get us back on topic!

Sorry—no power point. The costing data is proprietary, although ALPA is working with BS and training managers in order to see if changes to staffing can improve cost and reliability, without decreasing overall pilot staffing numbers (win-win).


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http://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/meetings.pdf

When you spout off 4th-floor approved corporate speak, you have to be prepared for the counterpoints!

Sounds like they are going about it in an efficient way. Good to hear.

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