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Big E 757 01-27-2020 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2965599)
The craziest award continues to be the ATL 320 A going senior to 777A and 350A.

That's so Bat**** soup that it's like having a slice of Lyme Disease with your Coronavirus.

Just don't get ticked off.


I don’t think it’s THAT crazy. I can’t hold any widebody A except 7ER in NYC but I personally don’t have any desire to do the flying the 777 and 350 do. Call me crazy. I did do INTL on the ER right seat years ago and enjoyed it, but ICN, JNB, PVG, HND, and PEK....you guys can have it. One day I’ll bid the 330 A and fly to Europe again, but only when I can control my schedule a little. 70% in catagory, or so.

duder 01-27-2020 05:40 PM

I am very anxious to see how many junior A's are going to bail for Widebody B. I am one of them. I have been working my ass off the last 2+ years. Looking to hide out in the right side of a 330 or 350 for awhile until we get a new contract. Being junior in the left seat on a narrow body right now is brutal. Left seat is going to go crazy junior in NY and LA. I don't think a 2014 is going to hold 737A in ATL though. ATL is going to continue to go more and more senior.

Xray678 01-27-2020 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 2965434)
I think we’ll see a 2014 7ERA in NYC.

no way.....2010 hire maybe.

737A ATL down to 10,000.

320A ATL....stays pretty senior.

350A stays about where it is....2700-2800

shocking award.....NYC 330A 3800-4000 and NYC 765 4000+

duder 01-27-2020 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Head (Post 2965668)
I am thinking the same thing. The 2-3 year NYC A’s might bail to do a couple years of widebody B flying before coming back to NB A in order to restore some sanity in their lives. What equipment are you bidding off right now that has driven you to the brink of insanity?

I know that NYC 73N reserve has been absolutely brutal...

717. Staffing so low you work every day on reserve and can hardly move a single X-day around. I'll go use my seniority in the right seat to make almost as much as reserve and be home 2X as much.

Trip7 01-27-2020 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Richard Head (Post 2965668)
I am thinking the same thing. The 2-3 year NYC A’s might bail to do a couple years of widebody B flying before coming back to NB A in order to restore some sanity in their lives. What equipment are you bidding off right now that has driven you to the brink of insanity?



I know that NYC 73N reserve has been absolutely brutal...

Which base? Everytime I look at 73N daily trip coverage I miss the 1-2 legs a day. 717 flying can be pretty brutal as you're constantly in the departure and approach environment

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Han Solo 01-28-2020 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2965690)
Which base? Everytime I look at 73N daily trip coverage I miss the 1-2 legs a day. 717 flying can be pretty brutal as you're constantly in the departure and approach environment

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ATL 717A (and DTW and NYC to a somewhat lesser extent) routinely uses every RES for every day they have available. Most of the flying sucks, and those a-holes from NYC have a direct line to my schedule. They OOBWS every time I've got a day off for a potential green and mum's the effing word when I'm on SC :).

GliderCFI 01-28-2020 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2965799)
ATL 717A (and DTW and NYC to a somewhat lesser extent) routinely uses every RES for every day they have available. Most of the flying sucks, and those a-holes from NYC have a direct line to my schedule. They OOBWS every time I've got a day off for a potential green and mum's the effing word when I'm on SC :).

Yep! We all know the NY initials SS....freakin guy loves an OOBWS. Especially when we have zero reserve coverage.

Our flying in DTW went to crap once the west coast flying stopped. Which is fine, if you're into the Dakota's in January.

bohicagain 01-28-2020 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Richard Head (Post 2965919)
Sounds like he’s working smart and taking advantage of the agreed upon language in the PWA to increase his QOL.

Sure Jan.
zero reserves. 5 GS given out so far and said pilot OOBWS DH both ways trip preventing a commuter from doing a GS.

But yes its allowed like costco return policy.

4fans 01-28-2020 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 2965922)
Sure Jan.
zero reserves. 5 GS given out so far and said pilot OOBWS DH both ways trip preventing a commuter from doing a GS.

But yes its allowed like costco return policy.

I can see how this would be frustrating because it seems like you deserve that green slip. However, can you really fault the guy if it improves his quality of life? Does your QOL or premium income trump his? Once again i can understand your personal frustration but not the outward animosity. Just like a person could get frustrated when they get used on reserve they don’t blame the guy that called in sick or whatever else caused the trip to be uncovered.

LeineLodge 01-28-2020 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 2965922)
Sure Jan.
zero reserves. 5 GS given out so far and said pilot OOBWS DH both ways trip preventing a commuter from doing a GS.

But yes its allowed like costco return policy.

Maybe he’s a commuter too. Or maybe he’s not. It’s none of our business as long as he’s working under the contract.

Griping about it, and especially using his/her initials on a public forum (presumably in an attempt to shame him/her into changing their behavior) is poor form.


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