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sailingfun 12-15-2019 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2939359)
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They can’t reroute you after your last leg. It would be a contractual violation. In addition if he had blocked in there are 117 implications.

crewdawg 12-15-2019 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2939393)
They can’t reroute you after your last leg. It would be a contractual violation. In addition if he had blocked in there are 117 implications.

I guess they could have "tried" to reroute him before blocked in. Either way, if this actually happened, I would have set the break and gone home lol.

sailingfun 12-15-2019 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2939399)
I guess they could have "tried" to reroute him before blocked in. Either way, if this actually happened, I would have set the break and gone home lol.

They can’t reroute you on your last leg even prior to block in.

b. A regular line pilot will not be rerouted into a flight segment(s) that commences after arrival of the last flight segment of his rotation, (i.e., a tag-on flight segment) as the rotation then exists.

notEnuf 12-15-2019 09:15 AM

I seem to remember some lore about a pilot exiting via the catering truck when the "meet and greet" squad was head hunting years ago. I don't think there's a loophole anymore but there was tag-on flying at one point.

crewdawg 12-15-2019 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2939403)
They can’t reroute you on your last leg even prior to block in.

b. A regular line pilot will not be rerouted into a flight segment(s) that commences after arrival of the last flight segment of his rotation, (i.e., a tag-on flight segment) as the rotation then exists.

Hmm, I think I've interpreted that incorrectly all along, but even the way I thought of it doesnt even make sense the more I think about it. I guess I should have taken a few law courses in college. Thankfully, it never impacted me in my career.

It says regular pilot, so I assume they could add an additional leg to reserve pilots.

sailingfun 12-15-2019 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2939407)
I seem to remember some lore about a pilot exiting via the catering truck when the "meet and greet" squad was head hunting years ago. I don't think there's a loophole anymore but there was tag-on flying at one point.

They were hiding from assignments when we had big shortages of pilots. They were referred to as jetway assignments were they met you in the Jetway to assign you another trip. Various methods were employed to avoid them including the aft air stairs or changing into civilian clothes and having another pilot carry your flight kit off the plane. Trust me, it really sucks to block in on 23 Dec to be met and handed a trip for 24 to 26 Dec.
It was and still is entirely legal contractually. Tag on flying has never been legal on the south side. It may have been different on the North side.

Iceberg 12-15-2019 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2939417)
They were hiding from assignments when we had big shortages of pilots. They were referred to as jetway assignments were they met you in the Jetway to assign you another trip. Various methods were employed to avoid them including the aft air stairs or changing into civilian clothes and having another pilot carry your flight kit off the plane. Trust me, it really sucks to block in on 23 Dec to be met and handed a trip for 24 to 26 Dec.
It was and still is entirely legal contractually. Tag on flying has never been legal on the south side. It may have been different on the North side.

Can you explain how that is different than “tag on flying?”

Omar 111 12-15-2019 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=Iceberg;2939458]Can you explain how that is different than “tag on flying?”[/QUOTE

It was a jetway assignment-a completely new trip after a break in duty. Harder to avoid than just not answering your phone for an assignment.

Tag on flying is adding segments to your current duty period. Always has been contractually illegal at your home base.

m3113n1a1 12-15-2019 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 2939458)
Can you explain how that is different than “tag on flying?”

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sailingfun 12-15-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 2939458)
Can you explain how that is different than “tag on flying?”

Tag on flying is when you have a leg added to your existing rotation upon arrival at your base on the last leg.
A trip assignment is when you are assigned a entirely new rotation. You must have a legal contractual and 117 rest prior to beginning the new rotation.


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