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01-14-2020, 06:20 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
UAL uses their WB fleet on lots of domestic transcon routes, similar to our use of the 7ER. The bottom (domestic) portion of the 7ER fleet is a new hire airplane at Delta. What is United's seniority on the International WB flying?
01-14-2020, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
They still pay 777/787 rates to fly those transcons. Which last I checked was (352CA/240FO) United vs (296CA/202FO) Delta that's comparing what JR CA's/FOs can hold at DAL so no 76-4.... So basically a loss of 58k-38k a year, which as long as we keep getting PS we can make up. But we loose so much simply because we have less higher paying aircraft than our peers.
01-15-2020, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
not to beat a dead horse but at UAL, WB FO is more JR to any CA position. That's just simply down to work rules and the fact that our peers have many more high paying aircraft. So why do WB pay rates at Dal really matter?
01-15-2020, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
What is global reserve? They can use an EWR reserve to cover a DEN trip?
Basically you get a few days off a month that are hard days that they cant touch. 6 of em. But they can move the rest. No thanks to that .
That's my rudimentary understanding.
01-15-2020, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
What is United's seniority on the International WB flying?
Originally Posted by Der Meister
So do we, it's called a reroute...
01-15-2020, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
We want their WBs, but not their WB reserve rules.
01-15-2020, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
They still pay 777/787 rates to fly those transcons. Which last I checked was (352CA/240FO) United vs (296CA/202FO) Delta that's comparing what JR CA's/FOs can hold at DAL so no 76-4.... So basically a loss of 58k-38k a year, which as long as we keep getting PS we can make up. But we loose so much simply because we have less higher paying aircraft than our peers.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say with these salary numbers, but comparing outliers to outliers, their 777 year-2 rate is $174, DL’s 767-400 rate is $165. Hardly a large disparity.
Comparing other outliers, how many 2-year captains does UA have? Delta also had a 4-month captain, but I’m not sure they got to keep their seat. All of the 2-year captains were able to hold on to a left seat as far as I know.
01-15-2020, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
They still pay 777/787 rates to fly those transcons. Which last I checked was (352CA/240FO) United vs (296CA/202FO) Delta that's comparing what JR CA's/FOs can hold at DAL so no 76-4.... So basically a loss of 58k-38k a year, which as long as we keep getting PS we can make up. But we loose so much simply because we have less higher paying aircraft than our peers.
