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01-15-2020 | 07:16 AM

#31

Milksheikh

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Originally Posted by GucciBoy

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say with these salary numbers, but comparing outliers to outliers, their 777 year-2 rate is $174, DL’s 767-400 rate is $165. Hardly a large disparity.

Comparing other outliers, how many 2-year captains does UA have? Delta also had a 4-month captain, but I’m not sure they got to keep their seat. All of the 2-year captains were able to hold on to a left seat as far as I know.

maybe he was meaning something like this? This is from another thread..

“I was hired by delta and United in the same month several years ago. When I take my 777 pay rate and multiply it by 1.08%, it beats the 767 I could hold there multiplied at 1.16%, by $30/hour.”

01-15-2020 | 07:25 AM

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Scoop

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From: DAL 330

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Originally Posted by Der Meister

not to beat a dead horse but at UAL, WB FO is more JR to any CA position. That's just simply down to work rules and the fact that our peers have many more high paying aircraft. So why do WB pay rates at Dal really matter?

Not even close. One of my best friends is about 30% on the FO list, 767/757 at EWR and he can hold Captain in many of UALs bases.

Just as we do, they have many “lifer” FOs who retire in right seat for QOL.

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01-15-2020 | 07:29 AM

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crewdawg

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Originally Posted by Milksheikh

“I was hired by delta and United in the same month several years ago. When I take my 777 pay rate and multiply it by 1.08%, it beats the 767 I could hold there multiplied at 1.16%, by $30/hour.”

I'm fairly certain that poster could hold 330/764 at DAL, so he's actually be a few bucks behind.

01-15-2020 | 07:51 AM

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Milksheikh

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

I'm fairly certain that poster could hold 330/764 at DAL, so he's actually be a few bucks behind.

Ah could be. About how long is it to hold 330 at delta?

01-15-2020 | 08:11 AM

#35

fishforfun

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Originally Posted by Milksheikh

Ah could be. About how long is it to hold 330 at delta?

4+ years. Current junior is 1/16 hire.

01-15-2020 | 08:22 AM

#36

crewdawg

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Originally Posted by Milksheikh

Ah could be. About how long is it to hold 330 at delta?

When he was hired it was 2 years. It's currently about 2 years on the 764.

01-15-2020 | 08:26 AM

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Der Meister

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Originally Posted by Scoop

I realize that a few of you didnt understand me saying that to the most JR WB FO at UAL cant hold CA. That's why I said "WB FO is more JR to any CA position". Reading comprehension is key...

01-15-2020 | 08:36 AM

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It’s become a cascading cliche on here that when anyone asks about junior captains, invariably the conversation pivots to WB B, and the mere mention of WB’s invokes comparisons to United. How about everyone stop caring so much what other people bid, and do the type of flying that appeals to you.