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Old 02-07-2020 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I was called into a CP’s office for this very reason a while ago. The gate agent claimed, “The captain impeded door closure.” My response was that I hadn’t even signed the release yet. That’s #25 on my list of 100 things to do before push. And what’s the point of closing the door if we can’t possibly push for another 20 minutes because I spent the first 5 minutes of my workday climbing over people in the jetway.”

He agreed.
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Old 02-07-2020 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Apparently flight ops at the LAX base visit now says they are going to cut even more credit out to try to squeeze more out of the operation this summer.

I see no way how this well thought out plan could ever go wrong.
So it goes from "we learned our lesson... making changes"...to "now we are going to do the same thing on a bigger scale"

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Old 02-07-2020 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
30 seconds to send a acars message and fix it. More important however is the cabin door should not be closed until you are ready to push. Keep the release in hand makes this simple.
I’ve never understood why guys chose to give up the release until no kidding ready to push.
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Old 02-07-2020 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chakerik
So it goes from "we learned our lesson... making changes"...to "now we are going to do the same thing on a bigger scale"

they have gotten themselves so far behind the hiring power curve that they don’t have a choice. They are already bouncing up against TLV/ALV limits (hence no summer vacations). The only way to try to make up the difference and add 3-4% capacity is to try and squeeze even more blood from the rock. Good luck to us all
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Old 02-07-2020 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I never have and never will agree to a "reduced report." It boggles my mind that guys do.

You're just asking for trouble.

Why not always report 30 prior?

Not calling you out, Falcon. Just anybody that agrees to it -- what are you thinking?
There was no ask or agreement. We set our report time after block in the night before. The departure time changed at some point when we were in rest.

The one thing I shouldn’t have done was to sign the release until after all the checklists were done.

All that being said we went at our own pace and caught the mistakes made by those who were “rushing”.
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Old 02-07-2020 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
There was no ask or agreement. We set our report time after block in the night before. The departure time changed at some point when we were in rest.

The one thing I shouldn’t have done was to sign the release until after all the checklists were done.

All that being said we went at our own pace and caught the mistakes made by those who were “rushing”.
Good call.

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Old 02-07-2020 | 04:26 PM
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I'm uninterested in rushing or trying to get an ontime when the company can't properly account for delays or equipment swaps.
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Old 02-08-2020 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
How exactly does shutting the doors generate a ontime departure?
For gate agents, on time is door closed. I've had them close the door with bags stacked to the ceiling just to have to reopen it and check them.
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Old 02-08-2020 | 06:23 AM
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Just to go with the silly attempts to squeeze more theme: Accepted an OOBGS to fly ATL-SRQ. GS awarded at 2250 at night, departed just after midnight, with a rotation that said operate out, then deadhead back at 5 am. Shortly after takeoff, dispatch asks us if we will operate the 5 am flight back instead of deadhead, otherwise it will be delayed 4+ hours. We turned down the request without hesitation and went to a hotel to take a nap. It made me wonder, however, if the company ever actually had a crew to fly that return leg or if they were attempting a bait and switch from the beginning? I know I would not have pursued or taken the GS had it meant leaving close to midnight, sitting 2-3 hours at an outstation, then operating back, so did they offer up a GS that looked easy, with the intent to try and get the crew to solve the remainder of their staffing problem?
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Old 02-08-2020 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Funk
Just to go with the silly attempts to squeeze more theme: Accepted an OOBGS to fly ATL-SRQ. GS awarded at 2250 at night, departed just after midnight, with a rotation that said operate out, then deadhead back at 5 am. Shortly after takeoff, dispatch asks us if we will operate the 5 am flight back instead of deadhead, otherwise it will be delayed 4+ hours. We turned down the request without hesitation and went to a hotel to take a nap. It made me wonder, however, if the company ever actually had a crew to fly that return leg or if they were attempting a bait and switch from the beginning? I know I would not have pursued or taken the GS had it meant leaving close to midnight, sitting 2-3 hours at an outstation, then operating back, so did they offer up a GS that looked easy, with the intent to try and get the crew to solve the remainder of their staffing problem?
If you wonder why did you not just look and see?
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