23K/Recovery Questions Thread

[PapaMike]

Originally Posted by 53x11

Also of note the 23K exception from LOA20-01 is only effective for the April bid period.

To follow up just to make sure everyone understands, the LOA itself doesn't include the 12 hour callout change. This new change was in a memo from Gumm from March 18 but still only applies through the April bid period

[lake]

That's what i figured..
Thanks to all that answered..

[Scoop]

Just to follow up on the original thread - I did get robocalled. So you might not hear anything until the day your rotation starts or possibly a day prior for an early sign in.

Scoop

[DWC CAP10 USAF]

Originally Posted by Scoop

Just to follow up on the original thread - I did get robocalled. So you might not hear anything until the day your rotation starts or possibly a day prior for an early sign in.

Scoop

What did the call tell you? That you had been assigned a recovery trip? That you had been placed on 23K? That it was NOOP'd and you had no ogligation?

[CatDad]

I have a day trip today with a report of 1410 and release of 2135. The legs have been cancelled for a week. It got NOOPed a few days ago and I acknowledged. It is my day 6, having finished a 5-day yesterday, without a 30 hour rest anywhere in there. I’m home with confidence that I am a pumpkin. The way I understand this memo is they could call me at 1410 to assign me something but 12 hours would put me into tomorrow (day 7) and a also an off day. Also also, ending more than 4 hours past my scheduled release.

[schwifty]

On the MEC page the COVID-19 Latest Information: LOA #20-01 -- COVID-19 FAQ says that if you deviate pre-rotation your 23.K obligation is to the airport you deviated to. Is that from the contract or the LOA? I couldn't find it in either.

[dc10guy]

Originally Posted by CatDad

I have a day trip today with a report of 1410 and release of 2135. The legs have been cancelled for a week. It got NOOPed a few days ago and I acknowledged. It is my day 6, having finished a 5-day yesterday, without a 30 hour rest anywhere in there. I’m home with confidence that I am a pumpkin. The way I understand this memo is they could call me at 1410 to assign me something but 12 hours would put me into tomorrow (day 7) and a also an off day. Also also, ending more than 4 hours past my scheduled release.

I called scheduling about my one day NOOP and was told I have no obligation.

[fishforfun]

Originally Posted by dc10guy

I called scheduling about my one day NOOP and was told I have no obligation.

What did you have after your 1 day? Mine just got NOOPd as well but I have 2 more 1 days following it.

[fishforfun]

Originally Posted by fishforfun

What did you have after your 1 day? Mine just got NOOPd as well but I have 2 more 1 days following it.

Quoting my question and answering it as well. Just spoke to scheduling and they said with the 12 hour after original report issue there is no obligation for 1 day trips. Glad I picked up a few of them for the end of the month

[sailingfun]

Originally Posted by ERflyer

They should however rewrite the rotation to show a DH. Correct? They can’t just leave dangling canceled pieces of it without it all connecting together into a coherent path.

Yes, they should. I hear schedulers have been working 16 hour days.